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> By the time Steam chased this up and voided the sale, gamers may have tried the title out and moved on, never noticing they had lost access as a consequence,

> By the time Steam chased this up and voided the sale, gamers may have tried the title out and moved on, never noticing they had lost access as a consequence, he said. That is not true. For years now (or maybe even forever?) you get a big fat notification popup [0] when a license gets revoked in Steam, which you also have to acknowledge by checking a box and pressing a button. > By the time Steam chased this up and voided the sale Also, I'm pretty sure the revocation of a license is more or less instantaneous. So that also seems untrue. It's not even Steam's job to chase this up, but the developers. 1. Developer detects fraudulent transaction 2. Developer matches game key to that transaction. 3. Developer revokes key/license on Steam. [0] https://i.imgur.com/R4OL8ki.png https://i.imgur.com/R4OL8ki.png

Ajedi32 7y ago
> It's not even Steam's job to chase this up, but the developers. That's only for keys purchased on the developer's own website though, right? Surely if the key was bought directly from Steam, then Steam would handle voiding the key? Worth noting that G2A claims to compensate developers "10 times the sum lost" if the key was bought on the dev's own website, and the dev in the article is claiming that isn't really the issue.
- dkersten 7y ago
  G2A claim that if you can prove that you lost the money due to a chargeback, but I imagine its a pretty difficult thing to prove. Seems similar to having a bug bounty with a lot of restrictions on what's allowed and then claiming you're software is bug-free because nobody ever claimed the bounty.
- tinodotim 7y ago
  > Surely if the key was bought directly from Steam You can't buy keys directly from Steam. There is steam gifting to gift games directly to accounts, but that got heavily restricted over the years. (You can't "hoard" gifts anymore in your account without activating them - on neither end, you can't gift when the price difference is too big between regions, if you decline a gift it automatically gets refunded for the giver, and so on...)
tinodotim 7y ago
Sorry, I just realized that I linked the wrong picture in the original comment, the one linked is for a purchase on Steam, the following is the right one for a key activation: https://i.imgur.com/faOpBWE.png https://i.imgur.com/faOpBWE.png (Slightly different wording with reference to third party sellers, yellow instead of red border.)

Ajedi32 7y ago

> It's not even Steam's job to chase this up, but the developers. That's only for keys purchased on the developer's own website though, right? Surely if the key was bought directly from Steam, then Steam would handle voiding the key? Worth noting that G2A claims to compensate developers "10 times the sum lost" if the key was bought on the dev's own website, and the dev in the article is claiming that isn't really the issue.

dkersten 7y ago
G2A claim that if you can prove that you lost the money due to a chargeback, but I imagine its a pretty difficult thing to prove. Seems similar to having a bug bounty with a lot of restrictions on what's allowed and then claiming you're software is bug-free because nobody ever claimed the bounty.
tinodotim 7y ago
> Surely if the key was bought directly from Steam You can't buy keys directly from Steam. There is steam gifting to gift games directly to accounts, but that got heavily restricted over the years. (You can't "hoard" gifts anymore in your account without activating them - on neither end, you can't gift when the price difference is too big between regions, if you decline a gift it automatically gets refunded for the giver, and so on...)

tinodotim 7y ago

Sorry, I just realized that I linked the wrong picture in the original comment, the one linked is for a purchase on Steam, the following is the right one for a key activation: https://i.imgur.com/faOpBWE.png https://i.imgur.com/faOpBWE.png (Slightly different wording with reference to third party sellers, yellow instead of red border.)