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I really hope IBM can keep their fingers out of Red Hat, if not it does not matter how many promises they make, they will run it into the ground. If they actual

by calgoo 7y ago

I really hope IBM can keep their fingers out of Red Hat, if not it does not matter how many promises they make, they will run it into the ground. If they actually manage to do so, and let their cloud business grow without old school IBM values etc; they actually have a chance to grab a big piece of the cloud business.

mtgx 7y ago
No company can keep that promise. The desire to meddle is irresistible, especially if they see the "independent" company go in a direction the mother company doesn't like. The only place where this seemed to work reasonably well for a while was YouTube & Google, but even that was ruined the moment Google decided it needs "unified accounts" and to insert the Google+ social network into YouTube.
- saltminer 7y ago
  > The desire to meddle is irresistible, especially if they see the "independent" company go in a direction the mother company doesn't like. Yep, often times the upper management thinks "wow what a successful company", then sees why said company is so successful after the merger and thinks "we're the best, we gotta make them just like us and they'll be even more successful", and the meddling begins. It also helps management get bonuses for helping "integrate" the acquired company with the parent one, helping "boost efficiency" and "reducing overhead" or some other way of glossing over "we destroyed what made them attractive and successful".
- kevinmgranger 7y ago
  Has Microsoft noticeably meddled with GitHub yet?
  - DaiPlusPlus 7y ago
    They made paid GitHub account benefits available for free.
gigatexal 7y ago
They have 34 Billion reasons to screw up RH. I hope it doesn’t happen.
crispyambulance 7y ago
> old school IBM values I think I prefer "old school IBM values" to whatever they've morphed into in the last ~20 years. They got a bunch of bad press lately for mass terminating, in an obviously shameless manner, "older" employees.
- mfatica 7y ago
  In my experience in corporate companies a lot of "older" employees get laid off because they stagnate and their job performance either plateaus or declines, and they refuse to learn new things.
- DaiPlusPlus 7y ago
  “Old school IBM values” presumably refers to their time in 1960s-1980s when they were real innovators and inventors. Now they’re just a consultancy shop.
xienze 7y ago
> I really hope IBM can keep their fingers out of Red Hat They won't, they've never let any acquisition be "independent" for any real length of time.
notinversed 7y ago
IBM was a true pioneer in the bullshit AI industrial complex with all that Watson nonsense. Many companies seem to have copied that strategy of just pretending they are sprinkling some AI fairy dust on whatever and that it's better somehow, while actually doing zero work. Outside of that accomplishment I have no idea what IBM has been doing since the 90s.

by calgoo 7y ago

mtgx 7y ago

No company can keep that promise. The desire to meddle is irresistible, especially if they see the "independent" company go in a direction the mother company doesn't like. The only place where this seemed to work reasonably well for a while was YouTube & Google, but even that was ruined the moment Google decided it needs "unified accounts" and to insert the Google+ social network into YouTube.

saltminer 7y ago
> The desire to meddle is irresistible, especially if they see the "independent" company go in a direction the mother company doesn't like. Yep, often times the upper management thinks "wow what a successful company", then sees why said company is so successful after the merger and thinks "we're the best, we gotta make them just like us and they'll be even more successful", and the meddling begins. It also helps management get bonuses for helping "integrate" the acquired company with the parent one, helping "boost efficiency" and "reducing overhead" or some other way of glossing over "we destroyed what made them attractive and successful".
kevinmgranger 7y ago
Has Microsoft noticeably meddled with GitHub yet?
- DaiPlusPlus 7y ago
  They made paid GitHub account benefits available for free.

gigatexal 7y ago

They have 34 Billion reasons to screw up RH. I hope it doesn’t happen.

crispyambulance 7y ago

> old school IBM values I think I prefer "old school IBM values" to whatever they've morphed into in the last ~20 years. They got a bunch of bad press lately for mass terminating, in an obviously shameless manner, "older" employees.

mfatica 7y ago
In my experience in corporate companies a lot of "older" employees get laid off because they stagnate and their job performance either plateaus or declines, and they refuse to learn new things.
DaiPlusPlus 7y ago
“Old school IBM values” presumably refers to their time in 1960s-1980s when they were real innovators and inventors. Now they’re just a consultancy shop.

xienze 7y ago

> I really hope IBM can keep their fingers out of Red Hat They won't, they've never let any acquisition be "independent" for any real length of time.

notinversed 7y ago

IBM was a true pioneer in the bullshit AI industrial complex with all that Watson nonsense. Many companies seem to have copied that strategy of just pretending they are sprinkling some AI fairy dust on whatever and that it's better somehow, while actually doing zero work. Outside of that accomplishment I have no idea what IBM has been doing since the 90s.