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Thought experiment: if the Russians, Germans or Japanese had the nukes first, would they use them in the same way? I'd probably say Stalin and Hitler were more

Thought experiment: if the Russians, Germans or Japanese had the nukes first, would they use them in the same way? I'd probably say Stalin and Hitler were more bloodthirsty than Roosevelt. Given the circumstances at the time, it was the best possible outcome.

Shivetya 7y ago
that is always the line of thought avoided at all costs by those seeking to vilify the United States using the bombs. The simple fact is, all three nations you mentioned had demonstrated a complete lack for respect of life and rights of others. Considering just how Germany and Japan treated captured civilians and military members should be more than enough to know what they would have done.
gdy 7y ago
Firstly, it was Truman, not Roosevelt. Secondly, Truman was quite bloodthirsty: "If we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible. . . ." [0]. Thirdly, Churchill was even more bloodthirsty and advocated for nuking Moscow in the years following WW2 [1]. [0] http://movies2.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0508.html http://movies2.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0... [1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826980/Winston-Churchill-s-bid-nuke-Russia-win-Cold-War-uncovered-secret-FBI-files.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826980/Winston-Chu...
- bouncycastle 7y ago
  Of course, should have included both Truman and Roosevelt. But the point still stands. We were up against leaders who were much more bloodthirsty and had trumendous disrespect for human life. The entire world decended in to madness - the morals basically went out the window. It was kill or be killed.
  - gdy 7y ago
    You were up against Russians in WW2, really?

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Thought experiment: if the Russians, Germans or Japanese had the nukes first, would they use them in the same way? I'd probably say Stalin and Hitler were more

by bouncycastle 7y ago

Shivetya 7y ago
that is always the line of thought avoided at all costs by those seeking to vilify the United States using the bombs. The simple fact is, all three nations you mentioned had demonstrated a complete lack for respect of life and rights of others. Considering just how Germany and Japan treated captured civilians and military members should be more than enough to know what they would have done.
gdy 7y ago
Firstly, it was Truman, not Roosevelt. Secondly, Truman was quite bloodthirsty: "If we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible. . . ." [0]. Thirdly, Churchill was even more bloodthirsty and advocated for nuking Moscow in the years following WW2 [1]. [0] http://movies2.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0508.html http://movies2.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0... [1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826980/Winston-Churchill-s-bid-nuke-Russia-win-Cold-War-uncovered-secret-FBI-files.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826980/Winston-Chu...
- bouncycastle 7y ago
  Of course, should have included both Truman and Roosevelt. But the point still stands. We were up against leaders who were much more bloodthirsty and had trumendous disrespect for human life. The entire world decended in to madness - the morals basically went out the window. It was kill or be killed.
  - gdy 7y ago
    You were up against Russians in WW2, really?