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I fear that within another 10 years it won't just be airports. I wouldn't be surprised to see this type of "security" at train/bus stations, stadiums, movie th

by moonka 7y ago

I fear that within another 10 years it won't just be airports. I wouldn't be surprised to see this type of "security" at train/bus stations, stadiums, movie theaters, churches, etc.

ruytlm 7y ago
My understanding is that the definition of 'border zone' that CBP and others use includes anywhere within 100 miles of the border, which covers roughly two thirds of the US population.[0] So you mightn't even have to wait 10 years! [0]: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone
- gshdg 7y ago
  And if you include all international airports as “borders” it’s even worse.
Blackstone4 7y ago
Maybe it will be automated through facial recognition and other sensors. All public places will be monitored for deviant behaviour.... crimes caught through CCTV and AI.... sir you were seen littering on July 10th 2031
- ataturk 7y ago
  That's just it--they don't do shit about the spate of littering in my city. I'm the one out there with a bag picking up other people's fast food trash and plastic bottles. The littering correlates well with the huge influx of "out of towners" as one might say. I have no problem with those who respect our community, but the locusts have come and they are mining us for all they can get. Our school district is bending under the weight and the district on our border is already broken. That is the reality of all this. It's a societal collapse. I've been to the tough parts of some big cities--Philadephia, Baltimore, Camden, Chicago. I don't want where I live to end up like that. Those places are now generational hellscapes, full of cretins who have no idea what building a civilization even means. We have enough of those people now and there's nothing we can even do with them except pay them not to riot. We badly need the other kind--the ones who do build, innovate, and add value. But please, please leave the communism and statism in the old country that was wrecked by it.
Shivetya 7y ago
sure, fear is being used to allow government to control more and more sectors of society. there is always enough fear to go around and be used to justify more intervention, whether security or services. if somehow you run out of fear, just declare it a right that all are by being human entitled to and fall back, its for the children. people are easy to exploit, that is why both corporations and politicians have marketing teams. they might call those teams by different names but the end result is the same, to get the public to go along with the desire of those who want money from, support of, or control over.
NowThenGoodBad 7y ago
It's already been beginning: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid A quote: > If you fly within the United States or enter secure federal buildings and military bases, you will need a valid passport or other federally approved document, such as a REAL ID driver license or identification card, beginning October 1, 2020. So, we need a passport to go between states, or a REAL ID...
asdff 7y ago
Have you seen these places? Then taken a look at the funding for these places? Then how much this level of security actually costs? The only way to do it would be to greatly expand the TSA staff; I'm not sure you can even hire fast enough. Airports are this tight on security because they are international ports above all. Aside from stadiums which are almost as ridiculous with their security protocols solely to get lower insurance bills (usually by contracting security staff on event day with the cheapest contractor at the time), security is shit enough at these places and there's zero money to do anything about it. Many LA metro stations don't even have turn styles or staff beyond the guy sitting in the front of the train; people walk onto the train and sit down without paying. Bus stations are commonly just a tiny metal sign attached to something already upright. Churches can barely afford their buildings as they stand. Movie theaters, not much better situation there. These places can't even afford a mall cop.

by moonka 7y ago

I fear that within another 10 years it won't just be airports. I wouldn't be surprised to see this type of "security" at train/bus stations, stadiums, movie theaters, churches, etc.

ruytlm 7y ago

My understanding is that the definition of 'border zone' that CBP and others use includes anywhere within 100 miles of the border, which covers roughly two thirds of the US population.[0] So you mightn't even have to wait 10 years! [0]: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone

gshdg 7y ago
And if you include all international airports as “borders” it’s even worse.

Blackstone4 7y ago

Maybe it will be automated through facial recognition and other sensors. All public places will be monitored for deviant behaviour.... crimes caught through CCTV and AI.... sir you were seen littering on July 10th 2031

ataturk 7y ago
That's just it--they don't do shit about the spate of littering in my city. I'm the one out there with a bag picking up other people's fast food trash and plastic bottles. The littering correlates well with the huge influx of "out of towners" as one might say. I have no problem with those who respect our community, but the locusts have come and they are mining us for all they can get. Our school district is bending under the weight and the district on our border is already broken. That is the reality of all this. It's a societal collapse. I've been to the tough parts of some big cities--Philadephia, Baltimore, Camden, Chicago. I don't want where I live to end up like that. Those places are now generational hellscapes, full of cretins who have no idea what building a civilization even means. We have enough of those people now and there's nothing we can even do with them except pay them not to riot. We badly need the other kind--the ones who do build, innovate, and add value. But please, please leave the communism and statism in the old country that was wrecked by it.

Shivetya 7y ago

sure, fear is being used to allow government to control more and more sectors of society. there is always enough fear to go around and be used to justify more intervention, whether security or services. if somehow you run out of fear, just declare it a right that all are by being human entitled to and fall back, its for the children. people are easy to exploit, that is why both corporations and politicians have marketing teams. they might call those teams by different names but the end result is the same, to get the public to go along with the desire of those who want money from, support of, or control over.

NowThenGoodBad 7y ago

It's already been beginning: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/realid A quote: > If you fly within the United States or enter secure federal buildings and military bases, you will need a valid passport or other federally approved document, such as a REAL ID driver license or identification card, beginning October 1, 2020. So, we need a passport to go between states, or a REAL ID...

asdff 7y ago

Have you seen these places? Then taken a look at the funding for these places? Then how much this level of security actually costs? The only way to do it would be to greatly expand the TSA staff; I'm not sure you can even hire fast enough. Airports are this tight on security because they are international ports above all. Aside from stadiums which are almost as ridiculous with their security protocols solely to get lower insurance bills (usually by contracting security staff on event day with the cheapest contractor at the time), security is shit enough at these places and there's zero money to do anything about it. Many LA metro stations don't even have turn styles or staff beyond the guy sitting in the front of the train; people walk onto the train and sit down without paying. Bus stations are commonly just a tiny metal sign attached to something already upright. Churches can barely afford their buildings as they stand. Movie theaters, not much better situation there. These places can't even afford a mall cop.