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How comes the Hindus are so rich? Only the Jewish are comparable, I wasn't expecting that

by paolomaffei 16y ago

known 16y ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste
- ajays 16y ago
  Any time there's a discussion of Indians or Hindus, why do people bring in caste? Do US universities admit students based on caste? Does the visa officer in the US consulate admit only people of a certain caste? Does a company hiring in the US ask for the applicants caste? Most of India doesn't care about caste; it's time that people _outside_ India stopped caring about Indians' caste too.
  - known 16y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poona_Pact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poona_Pact
shrikant 16y ago
See nivertech's comment below: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2038790 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2038790
- deleted 16y ago
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paraschopra 16y ago
I think this data is for Hindus in US which would be primarily families who have immigrated from India. Primarily the families who immigrate already in upper-bracket of income in India and furthermore their education level would be superior to most Hindus too (think IITs, etc.). I don't think the Hindu group considered here is representative of global Hindu group.
- borism 16y ago
  Primarily the families who immigrate already in upper-bracket of income in India and furthermore their education level would be superior to most Hindus too Yeah, but why does it matter when they come to the US? Shouldn't hindus who immigrated earlier have an upper hand, both in income and education, regardless of social status of new immigrants? Maybe it's because immigration from India to the US is somewhat recent phenomena?
  - gnaritas 16y ago
    The word is regardless, please; irregardless is a nonsensical double negative.
    - borism 16y ago
      thank you, I first wanted to use regardless, but for some reason thought that was incorrect. Nevertheless the issue is controversial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless
      - rue 16y ago
        Technically, there should be no controversy: regard is the base and from there you get "regardful" and "regardless". Really the only argument should be over using "regardless" rather than "regardlessly".
        bkudria 16y ago
        Tell that to "flammable" and "inflammable": http://www.write101.com/W.Tips215.htm http://www.write101.com/W.Tips215.htm (The evocative pair here being "reversible" and "irreversible") Technically, when talking about language, throw all your rules and logic out the window. :)
        reeses 16y ago
        "Technically", there definitely is controversy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_linguistics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_linguistics It's great fun to find out when someone is inclined in one of those directions, because they go out of their way to justify their perspective. It's better than C++ vs. Java.
oiuytuikolikuhy 16y ago
Because there haven't been generations of poor Hindu immigrants who are now working in gas stations. Hindu immigrants are all fairly recent and with current immigration policies only professors and bankers are likely to get in. For example the Japanese community in the UK is tiny, almost all are senior execs of Japanese merchant banks or electronics companies - so average income is probably $250k. But in San Fransisco there are lots of poor 3-4 generation Japanese kids. It doesn't mean that there is anything better about the UK for Japanese immigrants
ajays 16y ago
Most Hindus here are professionals. The typical path to entry into the US is via an MS/MD/PhD in a US university, followed by an H1 visa working as a engineer/scientist/doctor, followed by a green card and then citizenship. Family-based immigration is comparatively rare. It remains to be seen (and could be a topic of further study) how well their descendants do. There is indeed a lot of pressure to do well in academics in Indian families (anyone who's watched the Spelling Bee competitions can see the disproportionate representation of kids of Indian descent), so it is possible that the subsequent generations will continue to do well; but it would still be worth studying.

How comes the Hindus are so rich? Only the Jewish are comparable, I wasn't expecting that

known 16y ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_caste

ajays 16y ago
Any time there's a discussion of Indians or Hindus, why do people bring in caste? Do US universities admit students based on caste? Does the visa officer in the US consulate admit only people of a certain caste? Does a company hiring in the US ask for the applicants caste? Most of India doesn't care about caste; it's time that people _outside_ India stopped caring about Indians' caste too.
- known 16y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poona_Pact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poona_Pact

shrikant 16y ago

See nivertech's comment below: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2038790 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2038790

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paraschopra 16y ago

I think this data is for Hindus in US which would be primarily families who have immigrated from India. Primarily the families who immigrate already in upper-bracket of income in India and furthermore their education level would be superior to most Hindus too (think IITs, etc.). I don't think the Hindu group considered here is representative of global Hindu group.

borism 16y ago
Primarily the families who immigrate already in upper-bracket of income in India and furthermore their education level would be superior to most Hindus too Yeah, but why does it matter when they come to the US? Shouldn't hindus who immigrated earlier have an upper hand, both in income and education, regardless of social status of new immigrants? Maybe it's because immigration from India to the US is somewhat recent phenomena?
- gnaritas 16y ago
  The word is regardless, please; irregardless is a nonsensical double negative.
  - borism 16y ago
    thank you, I first wanted to use regardless, but for some reason thought that was incorrect. Nevertheless the issue is controversial http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irregardless
    - rue 16y ago
      Technically, there should be no controversy: regard is the base and from there you get "regardful" and "regardless". Really the only argument should be over using "regardless" rather than "regardlessly".
      - bkudria 16y ago
        Tell that to "flammable" and "inflammable": http://www.write101.com/W.Tips215.htm http://www.write101.com/W.Tips215.htm (The evocative pair here being "reversible" and "irreversible") Technically, when talking about language, throw all your rules and logic out the window. :)
      - reeses 16y ago
        "Technically", there definitely is controversy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_linguistics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descriptive_linguistics It's great fun to find out when someone is inclined in one of those directions, because they go out of their way to justify their perspective. It's better than C++ vs. Java.

oiuytuikolikuhy 16y ago

Because there haven't been generations of poor Hindu immigrants who are now working in gas stations. Hindu immigrants are all fairly recent and with current immigration policies only professors and bankers are likely to get in. For example the Japanese community in the UK is tiny, almost all are senior execs of Japanese merchant banks or electronics companies - so average income is probably $250k. But in San Fransisco there are lots of poor 3-4 generation Japanese kids. It doesn't mean that there is anything better about the UK for Japanese immigrants

ajays 16y ago

Most Hindus here are professionals. The typical path to entry into the US is via an MS/MD/PhD in a US university, followed by an H1 visa working as a engineer/scientist/doctor, followed by a green card and then citizenship. Family-based immigration is comparatively rare. It remains to be seen (and could be a topic of further study) how well their descendants do. There is indeed a lot of pressure to do well in academics in Indian families (anyone who's watched the Spelling Bee competitions can see the disproportionate representation of kids of Indian descent), so it is possible that the subsequent generations will continue to do well; but it would still be worth studying.