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Yes, I think we'd be better off if we had equivalents of much of Facebook or Twitter implemented as distributed protocols like email rather than as a centralize
by SiVal 7y ago
Yes, I think we'd be better off if we had equivalents of much of Facebook or Twitter implemented as distributed protocols like email rather than as a centralized system. You'd have your own @fred@example.com rather than just @fred at the One Big Company. Most ISPs could include them with the basic package or you could get them from someone else online the way you can get email from your ISP or gmail, hotmail, etc.
You could then still run your own server, just as you can with email, but you wouldn't have to take on that responsibility to get most of the benefits of taking control of your social media.
- OrgNet 7y agoisn't what https://about.riot.im/ https://about.riot.im/ is?
- omnimus 7y agono
- OrgNet 7y agowhy not?
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- mxuribe 7y agoRiot is a chat client/app - not a social media client/app in the strict sense. It is one of many clients/apps that uses the matrix protocol. I guess the nearest analogous clients/apps to Riot would be WhatsApp and good ol' IRC. In WhatsApp you might have groups, whereas IRC has rooms...and Riot leverages the "different rooms" concept for different chats. I would say Riot is a bit closer conceptually to IRC than WhatsApp...Because...Riot - and every other client/app that leverags the matrix protocol - is designed to be decentralized, or at least federated...so much in the same vein as good ol' email. I hope this nickel tour helps. ;-)
- OrgNet 7y agothanks, but what is the matrix protocol missing again? groups vs rooms vs profile vs private chat... aren't they all the same if you set proper security?
- mxuribe 7y agoSorry, I'm not sure what you're asking...? My comments were merely trying to clarify your question about the Riot client/app.
- MayeulC 7y agoMatrix is a distributed (federated) protocol, I also run my own server. However, I have not yet advertised it to my family, because that would mean having to maintain a high uptime. To alleviate this, decentralised user accounts would be needed, which [1] is about. [1]: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/915 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/issues/915
- dspillett 7y agoThat is what https://diasporafoundation.org/ https://diasporafoundation.org/ is trying to achieve, or something close to, IIRC. I'm not sure what state the project is in currently as I've not kept an eye on it recently, but it sounded promising when it started out. Looking at the release blog there seem to be regular small updates so there is at least some active development going on.
- brighter2morrow 7y agoAs I understand it, the founder of diaspora met an early end at his own hand.
- gleenn 7y agoVery sad but he had a couple co-founders as well as some community of people interested in continuing development AFAIR.
- slfnflctd 7y agoWow, I had no idea of this. There's even a Wikipedia page mentioning it that's not hard to find. The lost potential always makes me wince in these situations. Obviously, not all suicidal people have the possibility of recovering (especially if you include euthanasia), but it feels to me like a lot of them could, if we had healthier social/support systems.
- rakoo 7y agoThat is literally what ActivityPub and its predecessor OStatus are for: a protocol for declaring an identity and interacting with everyone else. The protocol is heavily oriented towards exchanging small-ish messages asynchronously to a bunch of recipients or to a server, so it's mostly intended for microblogging, but there are already some other uses popping up (an instagram-like photo sharing system, a youtube-like video site where you can post/follow/comment through your account, a standard blogging platform...) All of those applications talk to each other in a way that is finally looking like it's got enough steam to hold.