7 ms·
If they're not fictional, show me a Bitcoin.
by diminoten 7y ago
If they're not fictional, show me a Bitcoin.
- dragonwriter 7y agoThere's a difference between fictional and intangible. A Waterdhavian gold dragon is a fictional possession (though, in concept, tangible). A Bitcoin is intangible, but nonfictional.
- diminoten 7y agoThat's why context matters, and realizing that in this context "fictional" means "intangible" (kind of, in this case "fictional" more than just digital) would be important if we were having this conversation honestly. This isn't an honest conversation though, because people are getting overly defensive about BTC.
- fastball 7y agoI like how you've decided that people are being overly defensive about BTC, rather than the other side of the proverbial coin: people are being over-critical. Person A saying "this thing is totally a waste" and Person B responding "actually, no it's not, for these reasons" is not an example of Person B being "overly defensive". Especially when B provides rationalizations of their position and A does not. And in no context I've ever seen does "fictional" mean "intangible". Even if it did, this would not be one of those times, as the context of the OC clearly indicates being dismissive of the currency as a whole, not just pointing out that it is intangible.
- diminoten 7y agoI love how "show me a bitcoin" means "this thing is totally a waste" to you. That is why you're considered defensive.
- fastball 7y agoFor someone that brought "context" into the discussion, you seem to be forgetting the context of this entire sub-thread.
- diminoten 7y agoSnarky comment, but otherwise unhelpful...
- fastball 7y ago> that is burning energy for the sake of maintaining a ledger of fictional possessions. The original comment is obviously not using "fictional" to mean "intangible", as it is dismissive. Since you used the word "fictional" as a continuation of the original usage without clarification at the time, one must assume, given the context, that you meant the same thing. Anything else would not be reasonable in context. But again, nobody outside of this very discussion has ever used "fictional" when they really mean "intangible". "Imaginary" maybe, but not "fictional". I think we both know that this was a post-facto rationalization of your own unnecessarily dismissive comment.
- diminoten 7y agoI'm not the person who said "fictional", and my comment was not dismissive. Further, you stating something as true doesn't make it true, nor is it true if you blindly claim "one must assume". No, one must not assume, there is no one holding a gun to your head forcing you to be obtuse. I do appreciate you proving just how defensive Bitcoin people are, that is nice.
- fastball 7y ago> I'm not the person who said "fictional" > If they're not fictional, show me a Bitcoin. p.s. I'm not a Bitcoin person.
- 7y ago
- samstave 7y agoAnd an intangible but fictional object still of value is, say, A hat in TF2 or epic armor in some games...
- diminoten 7y agoDefinitely true, but you can show me a hat in TF2 (on your screen). Show me a Bitcoin!
- dragonwriter 7y ago> And an intangible but fictional object still of value is, say, A hat in TF2 or epic armor in some games A TF2 hat, like other digital collectibles, is a nonfictional intangible object (which happens to represent a tangible object in the fiction), not an intangible fictional object.