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When your only reliable way to get a pay bump is switching jobs adopting any system that ties pay to tenure seems awfully synonymous with pulling up the ladder
by dsfyu404ed 7y ago
When your only reliable way to get a pay bump is switching jobs adopting any system that ties pay to tenure seems awfully synonymous with pulling up the ladder behind one's self.
- vcarl 7y agoNot sure where "tying pay to tenure" came up, unless that's how you view what unions do? A union just means a group of employees negotiating as a unit, what changes they ask for isn't dictated in advance.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago>Not sure where "tying pay to tenure" came up, This is how basically every union workplace in the US works. The pay-scale becomes very rigid. Why would tech be different?
- Apocryphon 7y agoSurely a next-gen labor union based in the tech industry could find a new way to fight ageism without mandating a seniority system. Why does tech have to act the same way as before? I thought we were supposed to be innovators?
- dsfyu404ed 7y agoThe status quo is pretty good, good enough that I (and a lot of people) don't want to make that bet.
- Apocryphon 7y agoWhen there is a proposal that is suggested, there are proponents and detractors. That is tautological. Blankly insisting that things are good enough is just as empty as blankly insisting that things aren't.
- benaiah 7y ago> This is how basically every union workplace in the US works. The pay-scale becomes very rigid. How do you address, other than dismissal, the existence of the SAG and other unions for industries with vastly varying pay levels?
- dragonwriter 7y ago> This is how basically every union workplace in the US works. Well, in that the vast majority of union jobs are either public sector blue-collar, or both, sure. Non-blue-collar, private-sector union jobs don't work that way, though they often have firm minimums (like SAG-AFTRA “scale” pay.)