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I never understood this, why would anyone want to deal with ANOTHER app to do messaging? iMessage is built in, integrated, and has end to end encryption. What m

I never understood this, why would anyone want to deal with ANOTHER app to do messaging? iMessage is built in, integrated, and has end to end encryption. What more functionality are people clamoring for?

ceejayoz 7y ago
> What more functionality are people clamoring for? All those features in a market where lots of people you'd be chatting with are on Android, I'd suspect.
- overcast 7y ago
  See samoa below, half of his friends using iphone disable imessage??? It's nonsensical. iMessage works wonderfully.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    In the early days, iMessage had some availability issues - the only way you could get/send texts for a couple hours would be to switch it off so they'd send as SMS. There was also a bug that allowed a malicious message to crash phones sometime last year where the recommended fix was turning off iMessage (similar to this one). Some folks probably don't remember to turn it back on after these incidents.
opencl 7y ago
People want to use one app to do all their messaging. iMessage is not that app unless 100% of the people you message use iPhones. For a lot of people Whatsapp or Telegram can be that app.
- scarface74 7y ago
  Well seeing that iMessage integrates with SMS, it’s not just for iMessage users. While there are a lot of reasons not to want to use iMessage but only being able to talk to other iOS users isn’t one.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    When you send as SMS, it's not encrypted, some of the group chat features don't work, the reactions come through as confusing "so and so liked an image" on Android, etc. It's a big hit to the feature set.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      And that's why I said While there are a lot of reasons not to want to use iMessage but only being able to talk to other iOS users isn’t one.
      - ceejayoz 7y ago
        You're mixing up Messages with iMessage, then. iMessage is a subset of features in the Messages app that are unavailable when communicating with someone on a non-Apple device or if one of the parties has iMessage turned off.
        scarface74 7y ago
        The original post was iMessage is not that app unless 100% of the people you message use iPhones.
  - EpicEng 7y ago
    "XXX liked 'some dumb comment'" Ugh, so sick of seeing that

ceejayoz 7y ago

> What more functionality are people clamoring for? All those features in a market where lots of people you'd be chatting with are on Android, I'd suspect.

overcast 7y ago
See samoa below, half of his friends using iphone disable imessage??? It's nonsensical. iMessage works wonderfully.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  In the early days, iMessage had some availability issues - the only way you could get/send texts for a couple hours would be to switch it off so they'd send as SMS. There was also a bug that allowed a malicious message to crash phones sometime last year where the recommended fix was turning off iMessage (similar to this one). Some folks probably don't remember to turn it back on after these incidents.

opencl 7y ago

People want to use one app to do all their messaging. iMessage is not that app unless 100% of the people you message use iPhones. For a lot of people Whatsapp or Telegram can be that app.

scarface74 7y ago
Well seeing that iMessage integrates with SMS, it’s not just for iMessage users. While there are a lot of reasons not to want to use iMessage but only being able to talk to other iOS users isn’t one.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  When you send as SMS, it's not encrypted, some of the group chat features don't work, the reactions come through as confusing "so and so liked an image" on Android, etc. It's a big hit to the feature set.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    And that's why I said While there are a lot of reasons not to want to use iMessage but only being able to talk to other iOS users isn’t one.
    - ceejayoz 7y ago
      You're mixing up Messages with iMessage, then. iMessage is a subset of features in the Messages app that are unavailable when communicating with someone on a non-Apple device or if one of the parties has iMessage turned off.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        The original post was iMessage is not that app unless 100% of the people you message use iPhones.
- EpicEng 7y ago
  "XXX liked 'some dumb comment'" Ugh, so sick of seeing that