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> The only reason they're gaining control is becuase the rest of the linux userbase has decided that although they might complain about Red Hat's work on hacker
by zrm 7y ago
> The only reason they're gaining control is becuase the rest of the linux userbase has decided that although they might complain about Red Hat's work on hacker news and deride it as "not good", it's actually good enough that nobody wants to use any alternative projects to the ones red hat works on.
The decisions they're making are what prevents others from doing that. When they make a bad choice you would be willing to write code to correct, you can no longer just replace that one component with one that works better, because everything is tightly coupled without clean interfaces between them.
Then since no one else can justify spending the resources to replace the entire Linux userland in order to correct that one problem, the problem remains, and they accumulate. And still no one else can do anything about it unless they have the resources to replace far more than the individual problematic component(s).
- cwyers 7y ago> Then since no one else can justify spending the resources to replace the entire Linux userland Well that's just it, though. Red Hat is spending the resources to maintain and build much of the Linux userland. And they are no longer willing to do so in a way that helps support the userlands for the BSDs or the buffet mentality of building the Linux userland. If people don't want to use the Red Hat userland, then they _need_ to be willing to support a whole Linux userland that resembles what they want. Fighting a set of small individual battles just keeps losing. So far, nobody seems to have gotten traction on this, I think partly because most of the opponents are only unified in their disagreement with what Red Hat is doing and partly because I think the opponents don't have the resources Red Hat has.
- konqi 7y ago>Red Hat >Red Hat >Red Hat is not the owner of Wayland, of the repositories, of the protocols, and is not the biggest contributor base
- traverseda 7y agoIt is run by an ex redhat employee though, it seems to be a cultural thing. I wouldn't be surprised if his paycheck is ultimately being paid for by redhat, even if it's through a level of abstraction.
- cwyers 7y agoGiven that the blog post in question quotes from "On the Road to Fedora Workstation 31," I think Red Hat's adoption of Wayland is germane here.
- bitwize 7y agoMeanwhile, 20 years ago on Slashdot... "Well that's just it, though, Microsoft is spending the resources to maintain and build the underlying standards of the PC ecosystem. And they are no longer willing to do so in a way that helps support Linux, the BSDs, or the bazaar mentality of open source. If people don't want to use Windows, then they _need_ to support an entire computing platform that resembles what they want."
- clhodapp 7y agoIt seems to me that that is true, that it happened, and that it saw greatly varying levels of success for different use cases.