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In Finland the Erasmus/foreign exchange students of universities also tend to hang out among themselves and the native Finns don't really care about them. One

In Finland the Erasmus/foreign exchange students of universities also tend to hang out among themselves and the native Finns don't really care about them. One thing I've heard is that the Finns consider many of the exchange students to be a bit juvenile since in their home countries people often live with parents until their 30s. Whereas most Finnish students move out and become fully independent by age 20.

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veb 7y ago
where on earth is it the norm to be living with your parents until you're in your 30s? Kiwi here, a lot of us move out and go flatting at the first possible chance we get - which is right after high school/first year of uni.
- Mediterraneo10 7y ago
  > where on earth is it the norm to be living with your parents until you're in your 30s? The south of Europe. Spain is probably the most outstanding country in this regard.
  - rogy 7y ago
    And increasingly common in the UK
    - wyclif 7y ago
      Yes. It's much more expensive now to get one's own flat or share it with roommates in, say, London than it has been in the recent past. And it's only going to get worse.
  - wyclif 7y ago
    Also southeast Asia! In the Philippines, for instance, it's quite common for both women and men to live with their parents until they get married.
- rafaelm 7y ago
  I would assume it's the norm in most developing countries where young students cannot pay their own rent. At least it's the norm here (Venezuela), even before the crisis.
  - veb 7y ago
    Interesting! I remember when I first went flatting, it was 4 of my mates. So rent+utilities divided by 4 people made it pretty easy. and it's not like NZ is cheap by any means.
- sho 7y ago
  Lol. How about pretty much everywhere in Asia? China? Singapore? Korea? The "norm" is to live at home until you get married, when you use all the money you saved living rent-free at home to put down a hefty deposit on a house. I know actual millionaires who still live with their parents! Given the difficulty of affording a deposit for new home buyers who have been renting since 18 (like me - Aussie here), I can see the logic in it. I would go so far to say that the only time this is not the norm is when children move to a big city to work, leaving their parents back in their smaller hometowns. Then they live as cheaply as possible in dorms that exist for this purpose. There's a whole infrastructure.
  - veb 7y ago
    yeah, on second thought, you're right regarding Asia.... to a degree. I worked in Singapore for a while and a lot of people my age didn't live at home, and a few did. Singapore was a bit different though, it's bloody expensive there. In the Philippines I found that depending where you were from, depended on whether you left home as early as possible for better opportunities. Never heard of the dorms thing though. My wife and I will buy a house one day, but it won't be near any of the "big" NZ cities. Too expensive. I see the logic too, but surely your mental health must suffer!
    - 2Ccltvcm 7y ago
      The reason people buy expensive houses in expensive areas is because of enhanced social networking and housing market stability. Strong communities tend to fare better in economic downturns. Moving to the countryside increases the probability of social isolation. This has far reaching consequences on mental and physical health.
  - harperlee 7y ago
    Adding Spain and most of southern europe to the list.
  - lowdose 7y ago
    Still we can agree on the fact a millionaire living at hotel mom sounds outrageous.
- oblio 7y ago
  Almost every developing country + Southern Europe. So most of the world.
- Nasrudith 7y ago
  Places where real estate isn't cheap essentially. More common in old world than colonies.
- hindsightbias 7y ago
  “22 percent of people ages 23 to 37 now living with their folks from 11.7 percent of people the same ages back in 2001” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-millennials-are-living-at-home-than-at-any-other-time-this-century/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-millennials-are-living-at-...

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veb 7y ago

where on earth is it the norm to be living with your parents until you're in your 30s? Kiwi here, a lot of us move out and go flatting at the first possible chance we get - which is right after high school/first year of uni.

Mediterraneo10 7y ago
> where on earth is it the norm to be living with your parents until you're in your 30s? The south of Europe. Spain is probably the most outstanding country in this regard.
- rogy 7y ago
  And increasingly common in the UK
  - wyclif 7y ago
    Yes. It's much more expensive now to get one's own flat or share it with roommates in, say, London than it has been in the recent past. And it's only going to get worse.
- wyclif 7y ago
  Also southeast Asia! In the Philippines, for instance, it's quite common for both women and men to live with their parents until they get married.
rafaelm 7y ago
I would assume it's the norm in most developing countries where young students cannot pay their own rent. At least it's the norm here (Venezuela), even before the crisis.
- veb 7y ago
  Interesting! I remember when I first went flatting, it was 4 of my mates. So rent+utilities divided by 4 people made it pretty easy. and it's not like NZ is cheap by any means.
sho 7y ago
Lol. How about pretty much everywhere in Asia? China? Singapore? Korea? The "norm" is to live at home until you get married, when you use all the money you saved living rent-free at home to put down a hefty deposit on a house. I know actual millionaires who still live with their parents! Given the difficulty of affording a deposit for new home buyers who have been renting since 18 (like me - Aussie here), I can see the logic in it. I would go so far to say that the only time this is not the norm is when children move to a big city to work, leaving their parents back in their smaller hometowns. Then they live as cheaply as possible in dorms that exist for this purpose. There's a whole infrastructure.
- veb 7y ago
  yeah, on second thought, you're right regarding Asia.... to a degree. I worked in Singapore for a while and a lot of people my age didn't live at home, and a few did. Singapore was a bit different though, it's bloody expensive there. In the Philippines I found that depending where you were from, depended on whether you left home as early as possible for better opportunities. Never heard of the dorms thing though. My wife and I will buy a house one day, but it won't be near any of the "big" NZ cities. Too expensive. I see the logic too, but surely your mental health must suffer!
  - 2Ccltvcm 7y ago
    The reason people buy expensive houses in expensive areas is because of enhanced social networking and housing market stability. Strong communities tend to fare better in economic downturns. Moving to the countryside increases the probability of social isolation. This has far reaching consequences on mental and physical health.
- harperlee 7y ago
  Adding Spain and most of southern europe to the list.
- lowdose 7y ago
  Still we can agree on the fact a millionaire living at hotel mom sounds outrageous.
oblio 7y ago
Almost every developing country + Southern Europe. So most of the world.
Nasrudith 7y ago
Places where real estate isn't cheap essentially. More common in old world than colonies.
hindsightbias 7y ago
“22 percent of people ages 23 to 37 now living with their folks from 11.7 percent of people the same ages back in 2001” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-millennials-are-living-at-home-than-at-any-other-time-this-century/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/more-millennials-are-living-at-...