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> Can AMD still recover in this market? Everyone I know building a new PC is using an AMD chip. It's cheaper for the performance. In addition, if the gains (bo

> Can AMD still recover in this market? Everyone I know building a new PC is using an AMD chip. It's cheaper for the performance. In addition, if the gains (both energy and performance) can be moved to the mobile CPUs, then most people would switch there as well. In terms of OEMs, they have some super computers being built with their CPUs, Google using their GPUs for their gaming engine, and I suspect with that confidence placed in AMD we'll see even more. Just recently, Lenovo also released the T495, which has an AMD chip. I suspect the move to AMD will be slow, but steady until Intel has an answer for this. AND even if Intel has an answer (10nm), they have had several large security bugs. I suspect many companies and cloud providers will move to or at least explore a more diverse set of chips just because of that. This means more people trying the AMD chips, at the very least.

beatgammit 7y ago
I've been thinking about getting a T495, so I'm watching for reviews and whatnot (esp since the A495 had throttling issues), as well as watching for news on Zen 2 mobile processors. It would've been nice to get the product launched in time for the fall, but hopefully we'll see it launch soon.
- mroche 7y ago
  The T495 may beat the T490 in most things (if other laptops are any representation) but now is not the time to buy it in the U.S. For us, there’s only 3 prebuilt models to choose from as customizing isn’t an option yet. I wanted to get one as well, however I might hold off until the next gen as there’s a chance of a Ryzen 2 chip and USB 4. And maybe a bigger battery ;) I’d be curious of how the builds using the 3700 are doing, though. They pack a punch.
  - prvc 7y ago
    >I’d be curious of how the builds using the 3700 are doing, though. They pack a punch. If I'm looking at user-submitted benchmarks properly, there's only a very slight difference compared to the 3500U. Seemingly not worth the upgrade, or am I mistaken about this?
  - eggsome 7y ago
    The Australian store did not have the customisation options I wanted, so I purchased mine via the Hong Kong store and got it delivered to a family member there. Be careful though - the only way I got my E585 stable was to add idle=poll to my kernel parameters (which means I get pretty poor battery performance).
- franey 7y ago
  I asked Lenovo support about this, and the rep said a customizable version would be available withing two months. I'm in Canada, but I imagine the US won't be later than here.
- akvadrako 7y ago
  I looked at the T495(s) and all the best AMD-based laptops recently. They aren't that good, certainly not better than Intel-based offerings, except for the improved integrated graphics. notebookcheck.net has some decent comparisons. But the laptop parts (3700U) are still old-gen CPUs, not the ones everybody is happy about this year. Hopefully in 2020 we get some decent 7nm options with Thunderbolt, HiDPI screens and LPDDR4.
free652 7y ago
While they may be cheaper for performance if you compare just cpu, but if you include a GPU then it isn't that clear. The fastest ryzen with integrated graphics card is 2400g and it's only 4 cores. That's an extra $75-100 for the you. I had 2400g and it isn't cutting it anymore. And I don't need a gaming video card to work with visual studio at 4k@60. The 3rd gen Ryzen with iGPU aren't out yet
- AsyncAwait 7y ago
  Gamers don't care for an iGPU, honestly.
  - klingonopera 7y ago
    I find this is a good move by AMD. Have 1-5x CPU models with IGPs, and keep the lineup clean and compact. Not like Intel, with their, what, 50 iterations of different types per generation? I think it could even be hundreds. I'm not sure if it was part of their business strategy to overwhelm, but they sure did, and this didn't make them any more sympathetic, on the contrary...
  - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
    If it worked well enough, I'd take it.
  - blattimwind 7y ago
    Realistically developers are the only niche that needs as much CPU as they can get with virtually no GPU requirements. All other CPU-intensive applications tend to heavily profit from powerful GPUs.
- chipperyman573 7y ago
  If you're spending $300+ on a CPU, you're probably buying a GPU as well. And if you're not, and you just need something that's as good as onboard graphics you can probably get a old card for $20-30 on CL.
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beatgammit 7y ago

I've been thinking about getting a T495, so I'm watching for reviews and whatnot (esp since the A495 had throttling issues), as well as watching for news on Zen 2 mobile processors. It would've been nice to get the product launched in time for the fall, but hopefully we'll see it launch soon.

mroche 7y ago
The T495 may beat the T490 in most things (if other laptops are any representation) but now is not the time to buy it in the U.S. For us, there’s only 3 prebuilt models to choose from as customizing isn’t an option yet. I wanted to get one as well, however I might hold off until the next gen as there’s a chance of a Ryzen 2 chip and USB 4. And maybe a bigger battery ;) I’d be curious of how the builds using the 3700 are doing, though. They pack a punch.
- prvc 7y ago
  >I’d be curious of how the builds using the 3700 are doing, though. They pack a punch. If I'm looking at user-submitted benchmarks properly, there's only a very slight difference compared to the 3500U. Seemingly not worth the upgrade, or am I mistaken about this?
- eggsome 7y ago
  The Australian store did not have the customisation options I wanted, so I purchased mine via the Hong Kong store and got it delivered to a family member there. Be careful though - the only way I got my E585 stable was to add idle=poll to my kernel parameters (which means I get pretty poor battery performance).
franey 7y ago
I asked Lenovo support about this, and the rep said a customizable version would be available withing two months. I'm in Canada, but I imagine the US won't be later than here.
akvadrako 7y ago
I looked at the T495(s) and all the best AMD-based laptops recently. They aren't that good, certainly not better than Intel-based offerings, except for the improved integrated graphics. notebookcheck.net has some decent comparisons. But the laptop parts (3700U) are still old-gen CPUs, not the ones everybody is happy about this year. Hopefully in 2020 we get some decent 7nm options with Thunderbolt, HiDPI screens and LPDDR4.

free652 7y ago

While they may be cheaper for performance if you compare just cpu, but if you include a GPU then it isn't that clear. The fastest ryzen with integrated graphics card is 2400g and it's only 4 cores. That's an extra $75-100 for the you. I had 2400g and it isn't cutting it anymore. And I don't need a gaming video card to work with visual studio at 4k@60. The 3rd gen Ryzen with iGPU aren't out yet

AsyncAwait 7y ago
Gamers don't care for an iGPU, honestly.
- klingonopera 7y ago
  I find this is a good move by AMD. Have 1-5x CPU models with IGPs, and keep the lineup clean and compact. Not like Intel, with their, what, 50 iterations of different types per generation? I think it could even be hundreds. I'm not sure if it was part of their business strategy to overwhelm, but they sure did, and this didn't make them any more sympathetic, on the contrary...
- HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
  If it worked well enough, I'd take it.
- blattimwind 7y ago
  Realistically developers are the only niche that needs as much CPU as they can get with virtually no GPU requirements. All other CPU-intensive applications tend to heavily profit from powerful GPUs.
chipperyman573 7y ago
If you're spending $300+ on a CPU, you're probably buying a GPU as well. And if you're not, and you just need something that's as good as onboard graphics you can probably get a old card for $20-30 on CL.
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