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When done well, articles like this subtly switch tone from beginning to end. At the beginning, the tone is something like "we live in a great society, where wo
by DanielBMarkham 16y ago
When done well, articles like this subtly switch tone from beginning to end.
At the beginning, the tone is something like "we live in a great society, where wondrous things are possible, but we have problems"
At the end, the tone is something like "Progress hurts us. It is better to avoid modernity in its entirity"
Of course, the second statement is never fully fleshed out: to do so would show the many problems it has.
Everybody dreams of a simple world, living close to nature, part of a community and practicing a long-lasting culture. To see a native people in the South Pacific go from fishing to Big Macs and spam in a generation is ascetically displeasing.
But remember: the average life expectancy of an Afghan is 39 years. These supposedly fit and healthy societies had entire generations that never saw the age of 50.
I used to be a big fan of a certain culture -- until I read modern doctor's accounts of members of that culture who relied on traditional remedies instead of modern medicine. I used to be a big fan of going back to some of the old ways of primitive peoples -- until I read "Culture cult" (A must-read if you are interested in this sort of thing) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0813338638?ie=UTF8&tag=whtofi-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0813338638 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0813338638?ie=UTF8&tag=...
The fact is -- it's never a simple comparison. You can pick and choose and make the case that such ways of living are better -- or you can do the same thing to make the case they are worse. Doctors can tell you horrific stories about all sorts of cultures and societies. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, that is, we always think the other culture or way of life is better. Many times it is not.
I am a firm believer that some trade-offs are better for societies than others. It's not all just the same. And these are extremely serious health issues. I do not mean to make light of them at all. Perhaps we can learn some lessons from more traditional societies that we can apply. But we need to be very careful about when performing such analysis that we don't step over the line from selecting good things to frank prejudice towards any sort of traditional or primitive society. We romanticize peoples instead of looking at them the way they really are. It's a feel-good thing, sure, but our feelings rarely match up to the actual state of things, no matter how many good essays like this we read. (And this was a great essay)
- zach 16y ago> But remember: the average life expectancy of an Afghan is 39 years. These supposedly fit and healthy societies had entire generations that never saw the age of 50. That's life expectancy at birth, because Afghanistan (understandably) currently has the highest rate of under-5 mortality. Life expectancy upon reaching age 5 is probably still over 50 years, although these are the rosier 1990-95 figures: http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/afghanistan http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/country-health-profile/af...
- notahacker 16y agoThat link is useful in refuting some of the article's other claims, such as suggestion that heart attacks are "almost unknown" amongst the Pashtuns. The actual data suggests that Afghanistan is in the top 10 nations for numbers of coronary heart disease deaths per 100,000 population. The USA isn't even in the top 100. Sure, it isn't the leading killer out there, and it's lack of medical attention more than lifestyle factors driving that death rate up, but it's utterly false to insinuate that less fatty food renders heart problems irrelevant in that part of the world...
- zach 16y agoGreat point. There are other lifestyle factors besides diet playing a part as well. Particularly, that Afghanistan is probably one of the most stressful countries in the world in which to live over the last 35 years.
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