I reckon for designers are excellent for forms. The further you go beyond a data crud app, the less benefit you get from visual designers, because more stuff wi

I reckon for designers are excellent for forms. The further you go beyond a data crud app, the less benefit you get from visual designers, because more stuff will be animated, contextual, custom, etc. CRUD apps is a really big application space to cede, though, I totally think tooling is worth it.