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According to the article, it seems like he doubled down on a bad trip - probably the worst thing you could do while on LSD.

friendly_chap 7y ago
Not necessarily. Andrew Feldmar, a prominent psychologist I held in high regard advises to do exactly that: if you feel bad already, might as well take more.
- hi5eyes 7y ago
  thats fucking stupid
  - friendly_chap 7y ago
    Well, I do trust the experience of psychologists, or at least the ones familiar with LSD. I personally know some who have assisted hundreds/thousands of people during their trip.
- merpnderp 7y ago
  Too much alcohol, so take more? Too much ibuprofen, so take more? If you’re poisoned by something, you don’t take more.
  - friendly_chap 7y ago
    It's not a poisoning. It's a mental state.
- milquetoastaf 7y ago
  No. Do not ever do this. If you are having a bad LSD trip, the best medical course of action is to take a benzo like xanax. It will stop the trip almost immediately. Never trip with inexperienced people without one or two handy.
- grawprog 7y ago
  I try to keep my comments civil on here, but that's horrible fucking advice. The best thing you can do is try and relax and calm down, taking more of a drug you're having a bad experience with is the opposite of what anyone should do ever.
  - angel_j 7y ago
    There is wisdom in it. Some drugs have a kind of scuzzy zone somewhere between a mild dose and next level dose. If you're taking a drug that perforce requires you to "let go", it may help take enough that you lose agency to resist.
    - friendly_chap 7y ago
      Yeah, unfortunately the people in this thread do not have experience with this stuff and just reply based on their gut feeling. That middle zone you describe where you are stuck between the two worlds are probably the worst.
      - grawprog 7y ago
        Actually I have experience with lsd, mushrooms and some other hallucinogens. I've gotten really high on them. I've talked about it in my comments here before. I still believe it's bad advice especially for inexperienced users.
        friendly_chap 7y ago
        Fair enough, I do agree it's a dangerous game, I just don't agree that it's a completely stupid point.
- mnm1 7y ago
  I don't know who Andrew Feldmar is, but he is one incredibly stupid psychologist, likely one of the dumbest in the world if not the dumbest if what you say is true.
  - friendly_chap 7y ago
    And what is your reasoning behind that? People who take psychedelics are very familiar with the concept of not breaking through and being stuck in a limbo state between where your ego still has a chance to fight. Also please note this we are talking about a world renowned expert in LSD psychotherapy, who has 5 decades of experience in the matter. How many trips did you guide? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Feldm%C3%A1r https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Feldm%C3%A1r
    - mnm1 7y ago
      Yeah, worked wonders in this case. Amazingly great outcome. Good thing he followed Feldman's instructions. Now he's guaranteed a trip to jail or maybe even the cemetery. Yeah Feldman is a genius, you're right. I'm sure the people this guy put in the hospital would agree too. Really he probably still didn't take enough. Another ten to a hundred doses would probably have been even better.

friendly_chap 7y ago

Not necessarily. Andrew Feldmar, a prominent psychologist I held in high regard advises to do exactly that: if you feel bad already, might as well take more.

hi5eyes 7y ago
thats fucking stupid
- friendly_chap 7y ago
  Well, I do trust the experience of psychologists, or at least the ones familiar with LSD. I personally know some who have assisted hundreds/thousands of people during their trip.
merpnderp 7y ago
Too much alcohol, so take more? Too much ibuprofen, so take more? If you’re poisoned by something, you don’t take more.
- friendly_chap 7y ago
  It's not a poisoning. It's a mental state.
milquetoastaf 7y ago
No. Do not ever do this. If you are having a bad LSD trip, the best medical course of action is to take a benzo like xanax. It will stop the trip almost immediately. Never trip with inexperienced people without one or two handy.
grawprog 7y ago
I try to keep my comments civil on here, but that's horrible fucking advice. The best thing you can do is try and relax and calm down, taking more of a drug you're having a bad experience with is the opposite of what anyone should do ever.
- angel_j 7y ago
  There is wisdom in it. Some drugs have a kind of scuzzy zone somewhere between a mild dose and next level dose. If you're taking a drug that perforce requires you to "let go", it may help take enough that you lose agency to resist.
  - friendly_chap 7y ago
    Yeah, unfortunately the people in this thread do not have experience with this stuff and just reply based on their gut feeling. That middle zone you describe where you are stuck between the two worlds are probably the worst.
    - grawprog 7y ago
      Actually I have experience with lsd, mushrooms and some other hallucinogens. I've gotten really high on them. I've talked about it in my comments here before. I still believe it's bad advice especially for inexperienced users.
      - friendly_chap 7y ago
        Fair enough, I do agree it's a dangerous game, I just don't agree that it's a completely stupid point.
mnm1 7y ago
I don't know who Andrew Feldmar is, but he is one incredibly stupid psychologist, likely one of the dumbest in the world if not the dumbest if what you say is true.
- friendly_chap 7y ago
  And what is your reasoning behind that? People who take psychedelics are very familiar with the concept of not breaking through and being stuck in a limbo state between where your ego still has a chance to fight. Also please note this we are talking about a world renowned expert in LSD psychotherapy, who has 5 decades of experience in the matter. How many trips did you guide? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Feldm%C3%A1r https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Feldm%C3%A1r
  - mnm1 7y ago
    Yeah, worked wonders in this case. Amazingly great outcome. Good thing he followed Feldman's instructions. Now he's guaranteed a trip to jail or maybe even the cemetery. Yeah Feldman is a genius, you're right. I'm sure the people this guy put in the hospital would agree too. Really he probably still didn't take enough. Another ten to a hundred doses would probably have been even better.