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The fact a corp can not disclose its carbon footprint in 2019 demonstrates how far behind we are in legislation. It’s just a huge sad tragedy of the commons.
by avip 7y ago
The fact a corp can not disclose its carbon footprint in 2019 demonstrates how far behind we are in legislation. It’s just a huge sad tragedy of the commons.
- lugg 7y agoHow can it? Using what standard? America's? Australia's? Where do you even get the impression they should have to and that it's so out of this world that they don't "have to"?
- threezero 7y agoAmazon is supposed to abide by the laws of any country they operate in. The law in Australia says that they need to disclose energy use and that those numbers are made public. If Amazon doesn’t want to follow Australian laws, perhaps they shouldn’t be putting bit barns in Australia.
- lightedman 7y ago"Section 25 of the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act 2007 (NGER Act) permits corporations to apply to have information withheld from publication." I actually RTFA.
- archgoon 7y agoIt appears that they are acting within the law for this request. "Section 25 of the National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting Act 2007 (NGER Act) permits corporations to apply to have information withheld from publication. Pending finalisation of their application to withhold their corporate emissions and energy data from publication, Amazon Corporate Services Pty Ltd's data is withheld from publication" They will probably be denied the request.
- avip 7y agoIt's not very important at this point which reporting system is used, be it EPA's GHGRP or an alternative. Ideally, we would have had a global agreed upon reporting standards. But giving consumers the possibility of putting financial pressure on vendors based on emissions is critical. Not enough, too little too late - yet still critical.
- rthomas6 7y agoWhat standard? How about "kilograms"?
- Proven 7y agoThat is ludicrous. Why should a group of individuals have to disclose while individual citizens can keep it secret and hide behind privacy excuses?
- lostmymind66 7y agoWhat's also sad is that China and India regularly pollute the atmosphere (and cover it up) with impunity and are left out of all discussions of climate change because somehow 'developing' means you aren't responsible for your actions.
- avip 7y agoIndia is one of the very few countries set to achieve a significant chunk of its Paris commitments. In fact, India is already a global leader in renewables, and it does so in objective conditions far worse than other countries have. [EDIT: see how India is ranked https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/ https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/ IMHO Modi will go down in history as the greatest Indian leader after Gandhi]
- jammygit 7y agoInspiring
- adrianN 7y agoThere is no point in talking about India and China if there is literally no country on Earth that is on track for the 1.5° goal. It just distracts from the problems in your own country to point fingers at China and India.
- lostmymind66 7y agoYou can't point fingers at the US when the pollution is so bad in your cities that you need to wear gas masks or risk lung cancer in a few years. It seems nobody really wants to solve the problem and instead wants to just blame the US/Europe, while ignoring the biggest polluters on the planet. You can't tell me this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China Is not causing enormous amounts of damage to our environment and planet.
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago