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How has GitHub not yet banned this??

by jasonhansel 7y ago

buboard 7y ago
Maybe it can also be used to dress nude ppl
- ratsimihah 7y ago
  Or to dress dressed people
  - buboard 7y ago
    Changing outfits, that's an awesome e-commerce idea , though would be difficult to overlay a specific article of clothing. However, someone could use the variables of the autoencoder in such a thing to slide between different clothing styles until they find one they like in particular. Then have those clothes made / printed. Voila, haute couture goes AI
JonAtkinson 7y ago
Why should it be banned?
- elicash 7y ago
  You honestly don't know why the person you're replying to is concerned and wants GitHub to remove this? I get some may have a different opinion, but to not even BE AWARE that this raises ethical questions is pretty bizarre.
  - buboard 7y ago
    distributing the images is an ethical concern. Making them? i dont know. Can we ban people for "mentally undressing" someone? Plus this codebase will most certainly be used to make more interesting effects than simply undressing. It is inevitable that future movies will be made by mediocre-looking actors.
    - LeonB 7y ago
      It’s more than “an ethical concern”. It’s illegal in some jurisdictions currently and will be illegal in a lot more once legislation catches up with technology.
      - buboard 7y ago
        What about people who consentiously want their pictures used with this?
        LeonB 7y ago
        ....there wouldn't be any great loss in this not being available because those people would still be able to be photographed with their actual clothes off. This is for harassment. Other potential uses are invented by people to try and provide cover for its obvious target use.
        buboard 7y ago
        > This is for harassment. Yeah, though removing it from github won't make things better. Some kid would find the code anyway and distribute the app to jailbroken phones. That's why people need to be aware of this app - because if it's not the harassment will be worse.
        LeonB 7y ago
        Less abusive ex-boyfriends and abusive ex-husbands will find it. That's a win for each one of the victims that are spared. So it would make things "better" -- not perfect, but "better". And leaving it on github will make things "worse".
        buboard 7y ago
        Hmm, quite the contrary i think. Abusive exes will be even more motivated to find and use such an app, at a time when the public will be oblivious to their existence. I think it is inevitable for these kinds of apps and websites to start circulating widely. As always, there will be an initial shock and outrage, after which people will realize it's actually a toy and learn to dismiss it as fake pictures. And if the pictures are really good, i hope this tech can then be used as plausible deniability to someone who had her actual pictures stolen.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
    You honestly don't know there are people who may have different ethical concerns than yours?
- jasonhansel 7y ago
  It can be used to create pornographic images of strangers without their consent. I'm honestly surprised that you don't find it objectionable.
  - zeliard 7y ago
    Photoshop has been used for that for decades. Why not ban Photoshop?
    - jasonhansel 7y ago
      (1) Photoshop was not designed purely for generating fake nudes. (2) I'm not calling for government censorship, just saying that GitHub (and by extension Microsoft) shouldn't be giving these people a platform.
    - LeonB 7y ago
      In Queensland, under Revenge Porn laws: > “The new laws also cover photoshopped images – where an image has been altered to look like a person is portrayed in an intimate way.” --http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2019/2/13/revenge-porn-now-a-criminal-offence http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2019/2/13/revenge-por...
  - randyrand 7y ago
    check out /r/bubbling. No one has banned that either even though it’s non-consensual porn as well and has been for years. I don’t recall any articles written about it. It suggests that creating porn of people is not always objectionable.
  - JonAtkinson 7y ago
    Please don’t presume to know my position on this. I never said whether I do or I don’t find this objectionable. I asked you to expand on your comment, that is all.
    - jasonhansel 7y ago
      Sorry for misunderstanding. I just think that it would be a clear invasion of privacy, and show a serious lack of respect and decency, to create fake, realistic nudes of someone without permission.
Proven 7y ago
What would that do? But just in case, let's clone it so that we can share elsewhere $ git clone https://github.com/deepinstruction/deepnude_official https://github.com/deepinstruction/deepnude_official Cloning into 'deepnude_official'... remote: Enumerating objects: 36, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (36/36), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (32/32), done. remote: Total 36 (delta 2), reused 36 (delta 2), pack-reused 0 Unpacking objects: 100% (36/36), done.

How has GitHub not yet banned this??

buboard 7y ago

Maybe it can also be used to dress nude ppl

ratsimihah 7y ago
Or to dress dressed people
- buboard 7y ago
  Changing outfits, that's an awesome e-commerce idea , though would be difficult to overlay a specific article of clothing. However, someone could use the variables of the autoencoder in such a thing to slide between different clothing styles until they find one they like in particular. Then have those clothes made / printed. Voila, haute couture goes AI

JonAtkinson 7y ago

Why should it be banned?

elicash 7y ago
You honestly don't know why the person you're replying to is concerned and wants GitHub to remove this? I get some may have a different opinion, but to not even BE AWARE that this raises ethical questions is pretty bizarre.
- buboard 7y ago
  distributing the images is an ethical concern. Making them? i dont know. Can we ban people for "mentally undressing" someone? Plus this codebase will most certainly be used to make more interesting effects than simply undressing. It is inevitable that future movies will be made by mediocre-looking actors.
  - LeonB 7y ago
    It’s more than “an ethical concern”. It’s illegal in some jurisdictions currently and will be illegal in a lot more once legislation catches up with technology.
    - buboard 7y ago
      What about people who consentiously want their pictures used with this?
      - LeonB 7y ago
        ....there wouldn't be any great loss in this not being available because those people would still be able to be photographed with their actual clothes off. This is for harassment. Other potential uses are invented by people to try and provide cover for its obvious target use.
        buboard 7y ago
        > This is for harassment. Yeah, though removing it from github won't make things better. Some kid would find the code anyway and distribute the app to jailbroken phones. That's why people need to be aware of this app - because if it's not the harassment will be worse.
        LeonB 7y ago
        Less abusive ex-boyfriends and abusive ex-husbands will find it. That's a win for each one of the victims that are spared. So it would make things "better" -- not perfect, but "better". And leaving it on github will make things "worse".
        buboard 7y ago
        Hmm, quite the contrary i think. Abusive exes will be even more motivated to find and use such an app, at a time when the public will be oblivious to their existence. I think it is inevitable for these kinds of apps and websites to start circulating widely. As always, there will be an initial shock and outrage, after which people will realize it's actually a toy and learn to dismiss it as fake pictures. And if the pictures are really good, i hope this tech can then be used as plausible deniability to someone who had her actual pictures stolen.
- dvfjsdhgfv 7y ago
  You honestly don't know there are people who may have different ethical concerns than yours?
jasonhansel 7y ago
It can be used to create pornographic images of strangers without their consent. I'm honestly surprised that you don't find it objectionable.
- zeliard 7y ago
  Photoshop has been used for that for decades. Why not ban Photoshop?
  - jasonhansel 7y ago
    (1) Photoshop was not designed purely for generating fake nudes. (2) I'm not calling for government censorship, just saying that GitHub (and by extension Microsoft) shouldn't be giving these people a platform.
  - LeonB 7y ago
    In Queensland, under Revenge Porn laws: > “The new laws also cover photoshopped images – where an image has been altered to look like a person is portrayed in an intimate way.” --http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2019/2/13/revenge-porn-now-a-criminal-offence http://statements.qld.gov.au/Statement/2019/2/13/revenge-por...
- randyrand 7y ago
  check out /r/bubbling. No one has banned that either even though it’s non-consensual porn as well and has been for years. I don’t recall any articles written about it. It suggests that creating porn of people is not always objectionable.
- JonAtkinson 7y ago
  Please don’t presume to know my position on this. I never said whether I do or I don’t find this objectionable. I asked you to expand on your comment, that is all.
  - jasonhansel 7y ago
    Sorry for misunderstanding. I just think that it would be a clear invasion of privacy, and show a serious lack of respect and decency, to create fake, realistic nudes of someone without permission.

Proven 7y ago

What would that do? But just in case, let's clone it so that we can share elsewhere $ git clone https://github.com/deepinstruction/deepnude_official https://github.com/deepinstruction/deepnude_official Cloning into 'deepnude_official'... remote: Enumerating objects: 36, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (36/36), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (32/32), done. remote: Total 36 (delta 2), reused 36 (delta 2), pack-reused 0 Unpacking objects: 100% (36/36), done.