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There is no clear, unbiased evidence to prove which side carried this out. Ukrainian forces had just as much motive.

nso 7y ago
Yeah that's completely inaccurate. There is a plethora of evidence that suggests this was done with the support of the Russians. From the type of equipment used, the position of the launcher, public Twitter publications with bragging about shooting down a plane, phone surveillance, and more.
- emayljames 7y ago
  All the info you state comes from NATO/US investigations. So yeah, not biased. On your logic, then what about the trajectory being disputed and simulated to have come from Ukrainian positions. All evidence used from Western sources of investigation. It's not who shouts loudest is the innocent party.
  - verdverm 7y ago
    Where do you get your info from?
  - Arnt 7y ago
    Uhm.... What evidence would count as unbiased by your standards? I ask because I wonder whether such evidence could realistically exist. You sound as if your requirement is data collected by someone who really, absolutely has no interest in the conflict, but still cares enough to cover the area with radar or similar.
chewz 7y ago
There is International Arrest Warrant > International arrest warrants have been issued for the four suspects and a court case will begin in the Netherlands on 9 March 2020. > The Dutch-led joint investigation team (JIT) named the men as Igor Girkin, Sergei Dubinsky and Oleg Pulatov from Russia, as well as Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48691488 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48691488
- guilhas 7y ago
  Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir denounced murder charges made by the JIT, saying "From the very beginning it became a political issue on how to accuse Russia of wrongdoing" Also Ukraine as a suspect was involved in the investigation, while Russia rejected and evidence sent including radar data. A circus really.

nso 7y ago

Yeah that's completely inaccurate. There is a plethora of evidence that suggests this was done with the support of the Russians. From the type of equipment used, the position of the launcher, public Twitter publications with bragging about shooting down a plane, phone surveillance, and more.

emayljames 7y ago
All the info you state comes from NATO/US investigations. So yeah, not biased. On your logic, then what about the trajectory being disputed and simulated to have come from Ukrainian positions. All evidence used from Western sources of investigation. It's not who shouts loudest is the innocent party.
- verdverm 7y ago
  Where do you get your info from?
- Arnt 7y ago
  Uhm.... What evidence would count as unbiased by your standards? I ask because I wonder whether such evidence could realistically exist. You sound as if your requirement is data collected by someone who really, absolutely has no interest in the conflict, but still cares enough to cover the area with radar or similar.

chewz 7y ago

There is International Arrest Warrant > International arrest warrants have been issued for the four suspects and a court case will begin in the Netherlands on 9 March 2020. > The Dutch-led joint investigation team (JIT) named the men as Igor Girkin, Sergei Dubinsky and Oleg Pulatov from Russia, as well as Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48691488 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48691488

guilhas 7y ago
Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir denounced murder charges made by the JIT, saying "From the very beginning it became a political issue on how to accuse Russia of wrongdoing" Also Ukraine as a suspect was involved in the investigation, while Russia rejected and evidence sent including radar data. A circus really.