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Every thread that paints China in a negative light on HN always follow the same pattern: - USA whataboutism - Mass flagging (resulting in the story getting kn

Every thread that paints China in a negative light on HN always follow the same pattern: - USA whataboutism - Mass flagging (resulting in the story getting knocked off the frontpage despite having a great upvote, comment and submission ratio) - Comments negative towards China receive 1-5 quick downvotes before slowly climbing back to normal again It’s really unfortunate that an otherwise well moderated community is so easily defeated by this abuse, and that there appear to be nothing being done to fix it despite many obvious and simple solutions (ignore flags and downvotes by those who abuse them, ban shills that resort to whataboutism from posting in threads containing /China/Chinese keywords).

FakeComments 7y ago
dang is too busy censoring the narrative by whining about decorum to deal with his site becoming a infowar. I always wonder how much of the censorship investigated at major tech companies is caused by insular communities like HN, where the engineers hang out, practicing that same kind of narrative based censorship under decorum pretenses. Clip from the recent hearing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ik_kzn3etsE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ik_kzn3etsE
_lessthan0 7y ago
This is a ridiculous suggestion. There is never a huge amount of posts that criticize the US gov, so it doesn't get enough viewing time even though there are a huge amount of horrendous actions the US are doing and elsewhere (UK etc). Banning comments about whataboutism? LMAO. Censorship because people comment about how bad the US are? And youre bothered about Chinese ruling?
dang 7y ago
That is not at all an accurate description. This is a classic example of how people feel like the site is biased against their point of view even when it's the dominant one. It's known as the hostile media effect: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=%22hostile%20media%20effect%22 https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... I've written tons about this: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20bias https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... Here's a recent one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20314160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20314160 Your comment also broke the site guidelines against insinuations of astroturfing. People having opposing opinions on divisive topics is evidence of nothing other than that the topic is divisive. But the insinuation poisons discussions badly. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN. More on that from a few minutes ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20370575 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20370575.

FakeComments 7y ago

dang is too busy censoring the narrative by whining about decorum to deal with his site becoming a infowar. I always wonder how much of the censorship investigated at major tech companies is caused by insular communities like HN, where the engineers hang out, practicing that same kind of narrative based censorship under decorum pretenses. Clip from the recent hearing: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ik_kzn3etsE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ik_kzn3etsE

_lessthan0 7y ago

This is a ridiculous suggestion. There is never a huge amount of posts that criticize the US gov, so it doesn't get enough viewing time even though there are a huge amount of horrendous actions the US are doing and elsewhere (UK etc). Banning comments about whataboutism? LMAO. Censorship because people comment about how bad the US are? And youre bothered about Chinese ruling?

dang 7y ago

That is not at all an accurate description. This is a classic example of how people feel like the site is biased against their point of view even when it's the dominant one. It's known as the hostile media effect: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=%22hostile%20media%20effect%22 https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... I've written tons about this: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20bias https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... Here's a recent one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20314160 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20314160 Your comment also broke the site guidelines against insinuations of astroturfing. People having opposing opinions on divisive topics is evidence of nothing other than that the topic is divisive. But the insinuation poisons discussions badly. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN. More on that from a few minutes ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20370575 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20370575.