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In my probably unpopular opinion, parenting shouln'd be on the list. It's not a forced activity like sleeping or eating or commuting. It's a conscious choice pe
by jobigoud 7y ago
In my probably unpopular opinion, parenting shouln'd be on the list. It's not a forced activity like sleeping or eating or commuting. It's a conscious choice people make between it and other hobbies.
- dijit 7y agoErr.. what? you can put the time as 0 if you dont (and will never have a child). But if you have a child then you cannot choose. Well, you can, just like you can choose not to work, shower or clean, but you're not fulfilling your duties in that case.
- thomaswang 7y agoNot a forced activity? Not a parent I suppose. It is as forced as work. You don't have to work just as you don't have to have a child.
- an_ko 7y agoWere you forced to have children?
- thomaswang 7y agoAre you forced to have a job, groom, eat or sleep?
- jobigoud 7y agoYes. If don't eat or sleep you die. These are required activities, not things you can decide to do or not do, so they are not competing for free time.
- thomaswang 7y agoAnorexia heard of it. That's what happens if you choose not to eat. Yes you die but it is a choice (ish, a desease? yes, but stil a choice(of madness)). Being a parent is time forcefully spent. Now one could argue that all free time for a parent of children below a certain age is parenting time,and thus it might make sense to have a checkbox rather than a time slider for parenting time. The point is a parents free time is non existant we simply cannot play games on a pc or code for an extended period of time on weekends or holidays because that comes at the cost of not monitoring your child's daily consumption of soap (it should be zero, but you will be amased), or you could lock them in a padded room (illegal) so that you can code/game whatever in peace. The point is, a child makes sure that you never have a split second while they are awake to do what you want because they will literally sit on your hands and pull your hair (and you will come to love it in a bizarre way) that's just how it is (for a while)
- TeMPOraL 7y agoYou can choose not to have a child (though caveats around carelessness apply). You kind of cannot opt out of parenting once you have a child. Not if you wish to remain a decent human being. It's kind of forced on you, even more so than a job, because it's much easier to change jobs or just go on a welfare than to stop doing all the parenting each day as a parent throws at you.
- meheleventyone 7y agoThat sounds very naive. Yes people have chosen to have kids (and some haven’t) but you also chose where and how you work so by similar logic we should discount those choices. Once you have kids there are a lot of things that aren’t optional, and unlike a long commute aren’t easy to change.
- jobigoud 7y agoYou choose how and where to work, yes, and this is already factored in the form by the duration of the commute. Unlike having kids, you can't elect to not work though, because you need money to pay for buying food and shelter. (Unless you are in survival mode, in which case the concept of free time is probably foreign anyway).
- DanBC 7y ago> It's not a forced activity Because rape never happens?
- scarejunba 7y agoI don't agree with the original but this doesn't sound convincing. You still get to choose to keep the child, right?
- DanBC 7y agoAlabama forbids abortion even in cases of rape. Some other states have very short time limits for legal abortion.
- gambiting 7y agoYou can still give it up for adoption right after birth,no?
- jon-wood 7y agoHas anyone in this conversation considered that maybe the devil has plenty of advocates on this topic and doesn’t need anymore?
- scarejunba 7y agoHaha, fair enough. Consider me out.
- ilammy 7y agoWell, then time spent working is also your "free time" because that's your personal choice to work, unless you're a slave.