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My guess is that it's mostly IP-related. You can't use any of Qualcomm's patents when designing a modem, and they have a ton of modem-related patents, including

by umvi 7y ago

My guess is that it's mostly IP-related. You can't use any of Qualcomm's patents when designing a modem, and they have a ton of modem-related patents, including lots of the "common sense" solutions anyone would discover while developing a modem. Hence, you have to develop a modem with two arms tied behind your back which is quite difficult.

csours 7y ago
Could Intel talk publicly about this if they wanted to? Is the fear of lawsuits so great that they just don't want to talk about it? Living in the information age is great! I just wish I had more information.
- thefounder 7y ago
  Talking the patents policy bad wouldn't help then much. They like patents too...
- nix0n 7y ago
  Saying publicly "our modems are bad because..." is probably not a great way to sell more modems. Once they're out of the business, they have no incentive to say why, they just focus on other things. Since Intel has not always played fair against AMD, they don't really want to talk about anticompetitive business practices in a market they're exiting anyhow.
ak217 7y ago
Any examples? How does Broadcom do it? And if Broadcom and others do it by licensing from Qualcomm, why wouldn't Intel do the same?
- pkaye 7y ago
  There are some mentions that Broadcom doesn't fairly license these patents. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=dc82e3a3-7fdc-46e5-9323-d3d42d2b6e08 https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=dc82e3a3-7fdc...
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ndesaulniers 7y ago
What? I thought the LTE spec had certain required technologies that were patented and supposed to be licensed for a reasonable fee, and QC just got in trouble for tying those licenses to chip sales.
- mbreese 7y ago
  There were a lot of reported issues with Qualcomm licensing for standards essential patents. In particular they weren’t necessarily abiding by FRAND rules.

by umvi 7y ago

csours 7y ago

Could Intel talk publicly about this if they wanted to? Is the fear of lawsuits so great that they just don't want to talk about it? Living in the information age is great! I just wish I had more information.

thefounder 7y ago
Talking the patents policy bad wouldn't help then much. They like patents too...
nix0n 7y ago
Saying publicly "our modems are bad because..." is probably not a great way to sell more modems. Once they're out of the business, they have no incentive to say why, they just focus on other things. Since Intel has not always played fair against AMD, they don't really want to talk about anticompetitive business practices in a market they're exiting anyhow.

ak217 7y ago

Any examples? How does Broadcom do it? And if Broadcom and others do it by licensing from Qualcomm, why wouldn't Intel do the same?

pkaye 7y ago
There are some mentions that Broadcom doesn't fairly license these patents. https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=dc82e3a3-7fdc-46e5-9323-d3d42d2b6e08 https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=dc82e3a3-7fdc...

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ndesaulniers 7y ago

What? I thought the LTE spec had certain required technologies that were patented and supposed to be licensed for a reasonable fee, and QC just got in trouble for tying those licenses to chip sales.

mbreese 7y ago
There were a lot of reported issues with Qualcomm licensing for standards essential patents. In particular they weren’t necessarily abiding by FRAND rules.