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This looks a lot like an attempt at greenwashing by Air France-KLM (of which KLM is one brand) — although anything that ends up decreasing our global footprint

This looks a lot like an attempt at greenwashing by Air France-KLM (of which KLM is one brand) — although anything that ends up decreasing our global footprint is okay with me. What Air France-KLM wants is a reduction in short distance flights in order to remain competitive on long distance ones (which are presumably more profitable). Air France-KLM uses Schiphol Amsterdam Airport as the hub for the majority of their KLM flights, but Schiphol has reached the ceiling in terms of allowed flight movements. The plan was to offload Schiphol's low-cost holiday flights to the newly built Lelystad Airport, which should have been opened by now. However, Lelystad Airport's opening has just been postponed for the third time (and may never open at all), because it will likely exceed legal limits of nitrogen oxide emissions (amongst other issues, not all environmental). Instead, they appear to wish to replace short distance flights with long haul ones (at least at Schiphol).

swongel 7y ago
Not only are they green washing, they're also trying to blame the consumer for using their polluting products by telling them they should fly less. Like they're being responsible, but it's just those pesky consumers who can't behave them selfs. Spare me.
- GhostVII 7y ago
  But it is the customers fault, isn't it? There are lots of good reasons to fly somewhere, so I don't think it is unethical to offer flights, the problem is with customers flying unneccesarily. I think the best solution is to have some kind of carbon tax on these flights, so the cost of the pollution from them is accounted for, shaming people into avoiding flying isn't a great solution imo.
stingraycharles 7y ago
Why can’t they just reduce supply for short distance flights, rather than trying to decrease demand?
- TeeWEE 7y ago
  KLM is decoupled from Schiphol. Other airliners will step in, often they are very price competitive, KLM is not. Something like EasyYet is.
  - stingraycharles 7y ago
    So what you’re saying that KLM’s strategy is to reduce the overall share of short distance flights, in order for Schiphol to allocate more flights for long distance, and KLM will profit?

swongel 7y ago

Not only are they green washing, they're also trying to blame the consumer for using their polluting products by telling them they should fly less. Like they're being responsible, but it's just those pesky consumers who can't behave them selfs. Spare me.

GhostVII 7y ago
But it is the customers fault, isn't it? There are lots of good reasons to fly somewhere, so I don't think it is unethical to offer flights, the problem is with customers flying unneccesarily. I think the best solution is to have some kind of carbon tax on these flights, so the cost of the pollution from them is accounted for, shaming people into avoiding flying isn't a great solution imo.

stingraycharles 7y ago

Why can’t they just reduce supply for short distance flights, rather than trying to decrease demand?

TeeWEE 7y ago
KLM is decoupled from Schiphol. Other airliners will step in, often they are very price competitive, KLM is not. Something like EasyYet is.
- stingraycharles 7y ago
  So what you’re saying that KLM’s strategy is to reduce the overall share of short distance flights, in order for Schiphol to allocate more flights for long distance, and KLM will profit?