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What it is pussyfooting around is that there is not that drastic of a drop in fertility rates of muslims. I guess it shouldn't be hard to conceive where Islami

by car12 7y ago

What it is pussyfooting around is that there is not that drastic of a drop in fertility rates of muslims. I guess it shouldn't be hard to conceive where Islamic parties start having a major voice in elections because of demographics.

mxfh 7y ago
By numbers, global fertility/population trends and religion are not a "muslim" one, that's a made up western "identity" problem. If anything it's catholic to evangelical sectionism, if you look at Western Africa. Overall religion is secondary at best, but economically weak tribal/familiy social nucleus cultures vs established nation states that provide reliable social safety not just for relatives. "It's the Economy, stupid", look at fertility rates of Saudi Arabi, Iran, UAE Poland vs Nigeria.
- car12 7y ago
  The post that I was replying to was talking exactly about fertility rates of second, third and beyond generation immigrants in Netherlands. And what was found is that females from south-east Asia had a big drop in fertility whereas Turks continued to have large families, comparatively. So, no, the above research specifically disproves your argument.
FeteCommuniste 7y ago
Fertility rates across better-developed majority-Muslim countries have been plummeting: https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_dyn_tfrt_in&idim=country:ARE:QAT:SAU&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=sp_dyn_tfrt_in&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:ARE:QAT:SAU:MAR:IRN:TUN:DZA:LBY:KWT:LBN&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&... Not quite to the extent of some white European populations, sure, but very far from the "breeding like rabbits" image that politicians use to drum up fear among uninformed voters.
- car12 7y ago
  How is the statistic of lower dipping fertility rates inside Muslim countries of relevance when talking about: > the "breeding like rabbits" image that politicians use to drum up fear among uninformed voters The fertility rates of muslim immigrants are far higher than the natives which will lead to a decisive demographic and political shift, which is what those politicians are talking about.

by car12 7y ago

mxfh 7y ago

By numbers, global fertility/population trends and religion are not a "muslim" one, that's a made up western "identity" problem. If anything it's catholic to evangelical sectionism, if you look at Western Africa. Overall religion is secondary at best, but economically weak tribal/familiy social nucleus cultures vs established nation states that provide reliable social safety not just for relatives. "It's the Economy, stupid", look at fertility rates of Saudi Arabi, Iran, UAE Poland vs Nigeria.

car12 7y ago
The post that I was replying to was talking exactly about fertility rates of second, third and beyond generation immigrants in Netherlands. And what was found is that females from south-east Asia had a big drop in fertility whereas Turks continued to have large families, comparatively. So, no, the above research specifically disproves your argument.

FeteCommuniste 7y ago

Fertility rates across better-developed majority-Muslim countries have been plummeting: https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=sp_dyn_tfrt_in&idim=country:ARE:QAT:SAU&hl=en&dl=en#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=sp_dyn_tfrt_in&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:ARE:QAT:SAU:MAR:IRN:TUN:DZA:LBY:KWT:LBN&ifdim=region&hl=en_US&dl=en&ind=false https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&... Not quite to the extent of some white European populations, sure, but very far from the "breeding like rabbits" image that politicians use to drum up fear among uninformed voters.

car12 7y ago
How is the statistic of lower dipping fertility rates inside Muslim countries of relevance when talking about: > the "breeding like rabbits" image that politicians use to drum up fear among uninformed voters The fertility rates of muslim immigrants are far higher than the natives which will lead to a decisive demographic and political shift, which is what those politicians are talking about.