> Because we're not here to be selfless vassals. Who says? We can be anything we want to (within the laws of physics). > We have an innate biological drive to

> Because we're not here to be selfless vassals. Who says? We can be anything we want to (within the laws of physics). > We have an innate biological drive to reproduce and a core part of the human/animal experience. True, but the existence of contraception, sterilisation, celibacy, etc. are all examples that such "innate biological drives" are pretty trivial to avoid. > Its like asking people not to breathe or not to eat. Breathing not so much, since it's automatic (with a manual override). Eating is comparable, and is also a drive that many people successfully override for rational reasons (AKA "a healthy diet", rather than the "innate biological drive" to eat as much fat and sugar as possible). It's also something that public health efforts are trying to help us cut down on.