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Is it that much of an internet conspiracy theory when mainstream media reports on it? https://futurism.com/russian-sub-fire-internet-cables https://futurism.co

Is it that much of an internet conspiracy theory when mainstream media reports on it? https://futurism.com/russian-sub-fire-internet-cables https://futurism.com/russian-sub-fire-internet-cables https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/02/russian_sub_disaster/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/02/russian_sub_disaste... https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-submarine-losharik-undersea-cables-media-speculation-2019-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-submarine-losharik-un... Etc. What I find interesting is that before big news networks covered it some HN users were linking to the story in the previous outage threads. Way before anyone knew that the submarine had cable cutting capabilities At the time, everyone downvoted them because of how unrelated it seemed. I'm not saying that I subscribe to the theory. But it is interesting nonetheless.

ben509 7y ago
Whether or not something is a conspiracy theory has nothing to do with the person or persons advocating it. And the mainstream press is really bad at careful logical analysis. If anything, their desire for sensationalism can easily outweigh their concerns over looking foolish. For example, back in the '80s there was the Satanic daycare abuse scare, and it was absolutely pushed by mainstream news outlets. (That's more of a moral panic than a conspiracy theory, but real conspiracy theories tend to be partisan and I'm trying to avoid that.)
reaperducer 7y ago
Is it that much of an internet conspiracy theory when mainstream media reports on it? https://futurism.com/.. https://futurism.com/... https://www.theregister.co.uk/.. https://www.theregister.co.uk/... https://www.businessinsider.com/.. https://www.businessinsider.com/... Still waiting for some "mainstream media" links.
- Raphmedia 7y ago
  I sent the first three that I saw. I have to admit that in my eyes all those sites have the same lack of credibility. Here's a few more mainstream, I think. "Analysts suggested that one of its possible missions could be disrupting communication cables on the seabed." https://time.com/5619197/russia-navy-submarine-fire-deaths/ https://time.com/5619197/russia-navy-submarine-fire-deaths/ "Western military experts have suggested it is capable of probing and possibly even severing undersea communications cables." https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-russia-submarine-fire-nuclear-1.5199485 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-russia-submarine-fire-nu... "Analysts suggested that one of its possible missions could be disrupting communication cables on the ocean bed." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/02/sailors-killed-in-russia-submersible-fire-ministry.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/02/sailors-killed-in-russia-sub... "Russian ships may be using underwater cables to spy" https://nypost.com/2018/03/30/russian-ships-may-be-using-underwater-cables-to-spy/ https://nypost.com/2018/03/30/russian-ships-may-be-using-und... etc.

ben509 7y ago

Whether or not something is a conspiracy theory has nothing to do with the person or persons advocating it. And the mainstream press is really bad at careful logical analysis. If anything, their desire for sensationalism can easily outweigh their concerns over looking foolish. For example, back in the '80s there was the Satanic daycare abuse scare, and it was absolutely pushed by mainstream news outlets. (That's more of a moral panic than a conspiracy theory, but real conspiracy theories tend to be partisan and I'm trying to avoid that.)

reaperducer 7y ago

Is it that much of an internet conspiracy theory when mainstream media reports on it? https://futurism.com/.. https://futurism.com/... https://www.theregister.co.uk/.. https://www.theregister.co.uk/... https://www.businessinsider.com/.. https://www.businessinsider.com/... Still waiting for some "mainstream media" links.

Raphmedia 7y ago
I sent the first three that I saw. I have to admit that in my eyes all those sites have the same lack of credibility. Here's a few more mainstream, I think. "Analysts suggested that one of its possible missions could be disrupting communication cables on the seabed." https://time.com/5619197/russia-navy-submarine-fire-deaths/ https://time.com/5619197/russia-navy-submarine-fire-deaths/ "Western military experts have suggested it is capable of probing and possibly even severing undersea communications cables." https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-russia-submarine-fire-nuclear-1.5199485 https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/putin-russia-submarine-fire-nu... "Analysts suggested that one of its possible missions could be disrupting communication cables on the ocean bed." https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/02/sailors-killed-in-russia-submersible-fire-ministry.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/02/sailors-killed-in-russia-sub... "Russian ships may be using underwater cables to spy" https://nypost.com/2018/03/30/russian-ships-may-be-using-underwater-cables-to-spy/ https://nypost.com/2018/03/30/russian-ships-may-be-using-und... etc.