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My dog's brand isn't listed, but it seems like pea protein is a common denominator. My dog's "grain free" food has pea protein as one of its top ingredients. I

by jayess 7y ago

My dog's brand isn't listed, but it seems like pea protein is a common denominator. My dog's "grain free" food has pea protein as one of its top ingredients. I just switched him back to regular wet dog food. I'm beginning to think organ meat is necessary for canines. And reading through these comments has lead me to start looking into a BARF diet. Coincidentally I also noticed this article yesterday on allergic reactions in humans to pea protein: https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/food-allergy-pea-protein-1.5118978 https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/food-allergy-pea-protein-1.51...

technothrasher 7y ago
Just be sure you read decent, science based material on the BARF diet rather than just anicdotal forum post and people pitching their 'alternative' products. I've seen a very large cross section of pro-"raw food" and anti-vax attitudes in pet owners. That should be a huge red flag. Not that raw food is necessarily bad, but that the people pushing it are not often critical thinkers. https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/full/10.2460/javma.243.11.1549 https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/full/10.2460/javma.243.11....
- slantyyz 7y ago
  If someone is thinking of doing it because they watched Pet Fooled on Netflix, I advise that they do additional research first. Raw isn't necessarily better or worse, but best to make as informed a decision as possible. I pasted this link elsewhere in the comments, but I found this vet's analyses of raw food to be useful: http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2013/11/raw-diets-for-pets/ http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2013/11/raw-diets-for-pets/ --- As it relates to anti-vax attitudes in pet owners, I've seen a lot of it. My dogs have exhibited sensitivity/side effects to some vaccines, but I'm still pro vax. There are animals in my neighborhood that can spread diseases like rabies and parvo, so it's not like I can just forego the vaccinations. What we've done is work with our vet to spread out the vaccinations over longer periods of time, and separate some of the vaccinations (as opposed to having a multi-dose vaccination -- edit, I don't know if that's the right term, I'm talking about a single vaccination that prevents multiple diseases), and we've managed to mitigate most of the adverse reactions.
- jayess 7y ago
  Thanks for the info. I'm not sold on BARF, I'm just curious. I didn't know the connection between that and anti-vaxx. Interestingly, I'm not sure why my parent post got downvoted so badly.
chiph 7y ago
As a cat owner (Maine Coon - a "doglike cat") I've been noticing an increase in the inclusion of peas & other legumes in the market over the last couple of years. I believe that boutique pet food makers have been using it because it's a cheaper source of protein than even chicken by-products. One cat food I saw listed tapioca as the 2nd ingredient[1]. WTF - that's a starch, what is it doing in food for a carnivore? But it came in really good looking packaging, though. So far she has done well on the bulk packs of canned Friskies and Fancy Feast (both Purina products) from Costco. [1] Packaging laws say ingredients have to be listed in decreasing proportion. [2] Ob. cat tax: https://imgur.com/a/JHBue4Y https://imgur.com/a/JHBue4Y
- MrMorden 7y ago
  Upvoting for the cat picture.
rotten 7y ago
Isn't pea protein the base of the Beyond Burgers that are getting so much hype now?

by jayess 7y ago

technothrasher 7y ago

Just be sure you read decent, science based material on the BARF diet rather than just anicdotal forum post and people pitching their 'alternative' products. I've seen a very large cross section of pro-"raw food" and anti-vax attitudes in pet owners. That should be a huge red flag. Not that raw food is necessarily bad, but that the people pushing it are not often critical thinkers. https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/full/10.2460/javma.243.11.1549 https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/full/10.2460/javma.243.11....

slantyyz 7y ago
If someone is thinking of doing it because they watched Pet Fooled on Netflix, I advise that they do additional research first. Raw isn't necessarily better or worse, but best to make as informed a decision as possible. I pasted this link elsewhere in the comments, but I found this vet's analyses of raw food to be useful: http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2013/11/raw-diets-for-pets/ http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2013/11/raw-diets-for-pets/ --- As it relates to anti-vax attitudes in pet owners, I've seen a lot of it. My dogs have exhibited sensitivity/side effects to some vaccines, but I'm still pro vax. There are animals in my neighborhood that can spread diseases like rabies and parvo, so it's not like I can just forego the vaccinations. What we've done is work with our vet to spread out the vaccinations over longer periods of time, and separate some of the vaccinations (as opposed to having a multi-dose vaccination -- edit, I don't know if that's the right term, I'm talking about a single vaccination that prevents multiple diseases), and we've managed to mitigate most of the adverse reactions.
jayess 7y ago
Thanks for the info. I'm not sold on BARF, I'm just curious. I didn't know the connection between that and anti-vaxx. Interestingly, I'm not sure why my parent post got downvoted so badly.

chiph 7y ago

As a cat owner (Maine Coon - a "doglike cat") I've been noticing an increase in the inclusion of peas & other legumes in the market over the last couple of years. I believe that boutique pet food makers have been using it because it's a cheaper source of protein than even chicken by-products. One cat food I saw listed tapioca as the 2nd ingredient[1]. WTF - that's a starch, what is it doing in food for a carnivore? But it came in really good looking packaging, though. So far she has done well on the bulk packs of canned Friskies and Fancy Feast (both Purina products) from Costco. [1] Packaging laws say ingredients have to be listed in decreasing proportion. [2] Ob. cat tax: https://imgur.com/a/JHBue4Y https://imgur.com/a/JHBue4Y

MrMorden 7y ago
Upvoting for the cat picture.

rotten 7y ago

Isn't pea protein the base of the Beyond Burgers that are getting so much hype now?