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"a communication can be retained by CIA for longer than 5 years if it is enciphered" nice, so basically all communications through popular chat apps these days

"a communication can be retained by CIA for longer than 5 years if it is enciphered" nice, so basically all communications through popular chat apps these days. no wonder they are asking for "backdoors" :) what happens when quantum computing decrypts these all? if it's 15 years from now, do they just throw us all in prison retroactively for something we said 15 years ago?

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
>what happens when quantum computing decrypts these all? if it's 15 years from now, do they just throw us all in prison retroactively for something we said 15 years ago? They're only gonna decrypt your messages if they want to throw you in prison. Welcome to arbitrary enforcement.
- quaquaqua1 7y ago
  I have a sneaking suspicion you are right. They will decrypt all communications, maybe, but go after the average citizen and not the senator or large donor.
  - tachyonbeam 7y ago
    They will go after the people they want to put away, and find a reason to get them.
    - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
      And the easier it gets the lower the bar becomes.
- isoprophlex 7y ago
  Everyone will be guilty of some arbitrary crime. But, as per the linked article, there's already a mechanism for prosecution without a just trial in place: > According to documents seen by the news agency Reuters, information obtained in this way is subsequently funnelled to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.[168] Federal agents are then instructed to "recreate" the investigative trail in order to "cover up" where the information originated,[168] known as parallel construction. We're all fucked and we're already in William Gibson's cyberpunk dystopia. Minus the cool drugs.
  - quaquaqua1 7y ago
    >minus the cool drugs instead we have a very arbitrary channel to decide who gets to receive drugs our society produces, with all of their nasty side effects For me, any psychoactive substance a doctor prescribes is like pharmaceutical grade krokodil

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

>what happens when quantum computing decrypts these all? if it's 15 years from now, do they just throw us all in prison retroactively for something we said 15 years ago? They're only gonna decrypt your messages if they want to throw you in prison. Welcome to arbitrary enforcement.

quaquaqua1 7y ago
I have a sneaking suspicion you are right. They will decrypt all communications, maybe, but go after the average citizen and not the senator or large donor.
- tachyonbeam 7y ago
  They will go after the people they want to put away, and find a reason to get them.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    And the easier it gets the lower the bar becomes.
isoprophlex 7y ago
Everyone will be guilty of some arbitrary crime. But, as per the linked article, there's already a mechanism for prosecution without a just trial in place: > According to documents seen by the news agency Reuters, information obtained in this way is subsequently funnelled to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.[168] Federal agents are then instructed to "recreate" the investigative trail in order to "cover up" where the information originated,[168] known as parallel construction. We're all fucked and we're already in William Gibson's cyberpunk dystopia. Minus the cool drugs.
- quaquaqua1 7y ago
  >minus the cool drugs instead we have a very arbitrary channel to decide who gets to receive drugs our society produces, with all of their nasty side effects For me, any psychoactive substance a doctor prescribes is like pharmaceutical grade krokodil