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Am I wrong to think this is wildly euro-centric? There has been a long peace between developed "western" economies. But the world as a whole since 1945 has con
by little_goat_boy 7y ago
Am I wrong to think this is wildly euro-centric?
There has been a long peace between developed "western" economies. But the world as a whole since 1945 has continued to be full of violent conflict.
- macintux 7y agoThat’s a complex discussion. This page captures the overall state of the world in numbers; the number of active conflicts vary over time, but at least measuring it in terms of deaths, the world is generally getting safer. https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace
- graeme 7y agoIt is a useful habit before making an assertion to google and see if there are statistics to be had. War deaths are down globally, not just in Europe. The middle easy in a recent exception, as they had an uptick starting in the 2010s. https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace
- rdiddly 7y agoThe middle easy in a recent exception? You lost me.
- tikhonj 7y agoIt's probably a typo: "The Middle East is...".
- graeme 7y agoIndeed, that’s what I meant. The perils of turning off autocorrect.
- mavelikara 7y agoI think GP meant Middle East.
- DiogenesKynikos 7y agoThat "data" looks very suspect. For example, the graph titled "Violent deaths in conflicts and one-sided violence since 1989" appears to leave out the Iraq War. Maybe it relies on Iraq Body Count, which is known to undercount deaths by a factor of a few. Even if one accepts this "data," however it's been put together, the 1970s and 1980s were extremely violent times. They may look tame in comparison to WWII, but we should remember that WWII is the bloodiest conflict in human history. The "long peace" really only refers to an era in which major powers did not fight one another directly, but rather through proxy conflicts in the Third World.