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I meant it in both ways. Asking people not to have children is ridiculous. I can't believe it's even entertained. Maybe asking people to have smaller families b

I meant it in both ways. Asking people not to have children is ridiculous. I can't believe it's even entertained. Maybe asking people to have smaller families but that isn't an issue for most people on here I would assume.

chriswarbo 7y ago
> Asking people not to have children is ridiculous. Why? > I can't believe it's even entertained. Why? > I meant it in both ways. As I implied above, the second situation is utter lunacy. This seems to be nothing more than concern trolling about the perils of underpopulation.
- rorykoehler 7y ago
  Why? Because we're not here to be selfless vassals. We have an innate biological drive to reproduce and a core part of the human/animal experience. Its like asking people not to breathe or not to eat.
  - chriswarbo 7y ago
    > Because we're not here to be selfless vassals. Who says? We can be anything we want to (within the laws of physics). > We have an innate biological drive to reproduce and a core part of the human/animal experience. True, but the existence of contraception, sterilisation, celibacy, etc. are all examples that such "innate biological drives" are pretty trivial to avoid. > Its like asking people not to breathe or not to eat. Breathing not so much, since it's automatic (with a manual override). Eating is comparable, and is also a drive that many people successfully override for rational reasons (AKA "a healthy diet", rather than the "innate biological drive" to eat as much fat and sugar as possible). It's also something that public health efforts are trying to help us cut down on.
    - rorykoehler 7y ago
      > True, but the existence of contraception, sterilisation, celibacy, etc. are all examples that such "innate biological drives" are pretty trivial to avoid. You don't have kids because of the physical act. That's the how not the why.

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I meant it in both ways. Asking people not to have children is ridiculous. I can't believe it's even entertained. Maybe asking people to have smaller families b

by rorykoehler 7y ago

chriswarbo 7y ago
> Asking people not to have children is ridiculous. Why? > I can't believe it's even entertained. Why? > I meant it in both ways. As I implied above, the second situation is utter lunacy. This seems to be nothing more than concern trolling about the perils of underpopulation.
- rorykoehler 7y ago
  Why? Because we're not here to be selfless vassals. We have an innate biological drive to reproduce and a core part of the human/animal experience. Its like asking people not to breathe or not to eat.
  - chriswarbo 7y ago
    > Because we're not here to be selfless vassals. Who says? We can be anything we want to (within the laws of physics). > We have an innate biological drive to reproduce and a core part of the human/animal experience. True, but the existence of contraception, sterilisation, celibacy, etc. are all examples that such "innate biological drives" are pretty trivial to avoid. > Its like asking people not to breathe or not to eat. Breathing not so much, since it's automatic (with a manual override). Eating is comparable, and is also a drive that many people successfully override for rational reasons (AKA "a healthy diet", rather than the "innate biological drive" to eat as much fat and sugar as possible). It's also something that public health efforts are trying to help us cut down on.
    - rorykoehler 7y ago
      > True, but the existence of contraception, sterilisation, celibacy, etc. are all examples that such "innate biological drives" are pretty trivial to avoid. You don't have kids because of the physical act. That's the how not the why.