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People should really stop complaining about the dongle situation. Just about any portable device can be bought with USB-C or wireless. For fixed desk hardware

by LeonM 7y ago

People should really stop complaining about the dongle situation. Just about any portable device can be bought with USB-C or wireless. For fixed desk hardware (keyboard, mouse, monitor, ethernet) you should use a TB dock anyway. Yes, if you do presentations you probably need a dongle for the projector, but that has always been a mess anyway (VGA, HDMI, DP, DVI, it's never the same connection as your laptop). Yes, if you use a camera you'll need an external SD card reader, but you'll need that for many other computers too.

elsurudo 7y ago
> People should really stop complaining about the dongle situation. You're not really refuting anything below, just essentially saying to people: you know, I know better than you, you don't really need these things (the same thing Apple is saying). > Just about any portable device can be bought with USB-C or wireless. For fixed desk hardware (keyboard, mouse, monitor, ethernet) you should use a TB dock anyway. Never had a need for a dock before... > Yes, if you do presentations you probably need a dongle for the projector, but that has always been a mess anyway (VGA, HDMI, DP, DVI, it's never the same connection as your laptop). I dunno, HDMI is pretty standard these days. > Yes, if you use a camera you'll need an external SD card reader, but you'll need that for many other computers too. No my current MBP, though, which is the point here.
ramphastidae 7y ago
People should really stop defending the dongle situation ... My 4K monitor bought in 2016 doesn't have a USB C input so I need to purchase a $20+ USB-C to HDMI or DP cable if I want to use a monitor? My iPhone SE bought in 2016 uses Lightning so I have to buy a $20+ Lightning to USB C cable to charge that as well? I guess I should throw out all of the other Lightning to USB-not-C cables I've had to purchase over the years? My Apple USB keyboard bought in 2016 also uses USB-not-C so I guess I have to buy an adapter for that too? Meanwhile my 2013 MBP is perfectly capable of connecting to a monitor and keyboard and charging a phone without paying for add-ons. On top of that you suggest we "should" be using a $200+ TB dock anyway? How about Apple doesn't require users to buy $300+ of adapters to use their latest laptop with modern peripherals?
- sooheon 7y ago
  In 2016 there were already usb-c peripherals that you could've opted for though. I've used a thunderbolt/usb-c monitor since then, which uses 1 cable for video data and mbp charging. This convenience alone has sold me on usb-c as the future.
- LeonM 7y ago
  This is not an Apple situation. I own a Lenovo laptop and I also had to invest in ~450 euro in peripherals (TB dock, extra chargers, cables). That's just the reality if you want multiple places (work, home, on the road) to work comfortably with a laptop.

by LeonM 7y ago

elsurudo 7y ago

> People should really stop complaining about the dongle situation. You're not really refuting anything below, just essentially saying to people: you know, I know better than you, you don't really need these things (the same thing Apple is saying). > Just about any portable device can be bought with USB-C or wireless. For fixed desk hardware (keyboard, mouse, monitor, ethernet) you should use a TB dock anyway. Never had a need for a dock before... > Yes, if you do presentations you probably need a dongle for the projector, but that has always been a mess anyway (VGA, HDMI, DP, DVI, it's never the same connection as your laptop). I dunno, HDMI is pretty standard these days. > Yes, if you use a camera you'll need an external SD card reader, but you'll need that for many other computers too. No my current MBP, though, which is the point here.

ramphastidae 7y ago

People should really stop defending the dongle situation ... My 4K monitor bought in 2016 doesn't have a USB C input so I need to purchase a $20+ USB-C to HDMI or DP cable if I want to use a monitor? My iPhone SE bought in 2016 uses Lightning so I have to buy a $20+ Lightning to USB C cable to charge that as well? I guess I should throw out all of the other Lightning to USB-not-C cables I've had to purchase over the years? My Apple USB keyboard bought in 2016 also uses USB-not-C so I guess I have to buy an adapter for that too? Meanwhile my 2013 MBP is perfectly capable of connecting to a monitor and keyboard and charging a phone without paying for add-ons. On top of that you suggest we "should" be using a $200+ TB dock anyway? How about Apple doesn't require users to buy $300+ of adapters to use their latest laptop with modern peripherals?

sooheon 7y ago
In 2016 there were already usb-c peripherals that you could've opted for though. I've used a thunderbolt/usb-c monitor since then, which uses 1 cable for video data and mbp charging. This convenience alone has sold me on usb-c as the future.
LeonM 7y ago
This is not an Apple situation. I own a Lenovo laptop and I also had to invest in ~450 euro in peripherals (TB dock, extra chargers, cables). That's just the reality if you want multiple places (work, home, on the road) to work comfortably with a laptop.