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> The punk confronting nuns is doing so from the bottom of the power hierarchy, and achieving their freedom not at the expense of anyone else. The modern alt-ri

> The punk confronting nuns is doing so from the bottom of the power hierarchy, and achieving their freedom not at the expense of anyone else. The modern alt-right culture is looking for targets and hostile to anyone who asks for respect. I think you're incorrect about who holds the power culturally. Calling a person with XY chromosomes a man who prefers to be called a woman will result in firing, ejection from conferences and projects, or shunning — while on the other hand believing oneself to be a 'yellow-scaled wingless dragonkin' is allegedly no hindrance to working for Google. I'm not taking a position here on whether it's right or wrong, just noting that right now it seems to me that the cultural Left has overwhelmingly won.

pjc50 7y ago
> Calling a person with XY chromosomes a man who prefers to be called a woman will result in firing, ejection from conferences and projects, or shunning Most of the time it doesn't. Most of the time absolutely nothing happens. Certainly the traditional power hierarchy is unlikely to do much. It can also get you a position on a national newspaper. It's just that in a relatively few cases it's reached viral outrage level and something has actually been done. This is the problem with the culture war: everything is fought over the highest-level most visible cases. All the low stakes of thousands of people are placed on a single case as an incredibly high stake. And the people are fired/deplatformed over it are very rarely innocents who have made a mistake on the first instance - it's nearly always people who knew what they were doing and chose to pick that fight, who happened to lose this time. So in most situations the balance of power favours the traditional side; it's just that in a few cases the internet mob can focus the outrage laser and achieve dominant power. That's an unstable situation, certainly.

pjc50 7y ago

> Calling a person with XY chromosomes a man who prefers to be called a woman will result in firing, ejection from conferences and projects, or shunning Most of the time it doesn't. Most of the time absolutely nothing happens. Certainly the traditional power hierarchy is unlikely to do much. It can also get you a position on a national newspaper. It's just that in a relatively few cases it's reached viral outrage level and something has actually been done. This is the problem with the culture war: everything is fought over the highest-level most visible cases. All the low stakes of thousands of people are placed on a single case as an incredibly high stake. And the people are fired/deplatformed over it are very rarely innocents who have made a mistake on the first instance - it's nearly always people who knew what they were doing and chose to pick that fight, who happened to lose this time. So in most situations the balance of power favours the traditional side; it's just that in a few cases the internet mob can focus the outrage laser and achieve dominant power. That's an unstable situation, certainly.