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I'll actually be a counter example to that, I recently started a security podcast with a couple friends, talking about the latest in exploit development and mit

by kdbg 7y ago

I'll actually be a counter example to that, I recently started a security podcast with a couple friends, talking about the latest in exploit development and mitigations, and whatever news we find interesting. Shortly after we uploaded our 4th episode we were banned on Youtube. We appealed the ban and were allowed back on pretty quickly (hours) and we are by no means a large channel even now (~50 subs).

sinjid 7y ago
What's the name of your channel? :)
- ccrush 7y ago
  Right? I want to sub.
- kdbg 7y ago
  Day[0] - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXFC76FDHZRVes6_lZqwLBA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXFC76FDHZRVes6_lZqwLBA We are not putting out any new episodes right now though, I'm currently off on a long-distance hike.
  - kylebarron 7y ago
    What trail? I'm reading this from northern California on the Pacific Crest Trail
ggg2 7y ago
I'm happy for you that you speak a language google happens to have support in, and that you have the time to besides creating and uploading content, to monitor it is not censored at a later, random, date by google. And that you were able to provide the US based documentation they required and that your videos content happened to not be in the blacklist of any nation state. /s (I guess)
- 0xfeba 7y ago
  YouTube is a private company. They are under no obligation to provide support in 5,000 different languages. Or to host your videos at all. This post reeks of entitlement.
  - jlawson 7y ago
    They control the pathways of modern speech. It's not like a baker where you can just get your wedding cake somewhere else. If Google doesn't like you they can damn near erase you from public view. If you have an internet business they can ruin it. There is no way to escape their influence. Because of this, they have a responsibility to uphold people's natural right to expression. In many ways Google now has more control over speech than governments historically have. If there was a viable competitor this would be different, but there is no such competitor.
    - krapp 7y ago
      >They control the pathways of modern speech. Not true. Almost all modern speech doesn't take place on Youtube or any Google platform. It's possible to broadcast without Google, publish without Google, disseminate without Google, gather without Google, dissent without Google, make phone calls without Google, chat, email, text, audio, video, everything - literally all forms of speech and expression are possible without Google, both on and off the internet. >If Google doesn't like you they can damn near erase you from public view. Also not true. Plenty of people Google "doesn't like" are still in public view. Name one person Google has effectively "disappeared" in this way, and I'll bet they still have a presence elsewhere on the web, still participate in society, still can communicate publicly, be contacted, etc. >If you have an internet business they can ruin it. Maybe. But then so could Amazon. So could your ISP. If losing SEO would ruin your business, the problem isn't Google's power, it's your crappy business model. >There is no way to escape their influence. Really? Do they control you here? In your home? Do they moderate other sites? Do they control Twitter, Facebook, Hacker News? It's arbitrarily easy to escape their influence. They control one platform, not the internet, not society, not governments. >In many ways Google now has more control over speech than governments historically have. Governments can imprison you, torture you, kill you, run over your friends with tanks, nuke entire cities, fill shallow graves with dissidents, burn down libraries and make it legal. Google has no more control over speech than the governments whose laws they must obey by definition. They don't claim a monopoly on violence or sovereign immunity. >If there was a viable competitor this would be different, but there is no such competitor. There are plenty. Google is not the only search engine, and Youtube is not the only video streaming service. Almost every part of your comment is falsehood, hyperbole and nonsense.

by kdbg 7y ago

sinjid 7y ago

What's the name of your channel? :)

ccrush 7y ago
Right? I want to sub.
kdbg 7y ago
Day[0] - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXFC76FDHZRVes6_lZqwLBA https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXFC76FDHZRVes6_lZqwLBA We are not putting out any new episodes right now though, I'm currently off on a long-distance hike.
- kylebarron 7y ago
  What trail? I'm reading this from northern California on the Pacific Crest Trail

ggg2 7y ago

I'm happy for you that you speak a language google happens to have support in, and that you have the time to besides creating and uploading content, to monitor it is not censored at a later, random, date by google. And that you were able to provide the US based documentation they required and that your videos content happened to not be in the blacklist of any nation state. /s (I guess)

0xfeba 7y ago
YouTube is a private company. They are under no obligation to provide support in 5,000 different languages. Or to host your videos at all. This post reeks of entitlement.
- jlawson 7y ago
  They control the pathways of modern speech. It's not like a baker where you can just get your wedding cake somewhere else. If Google doesn't like you they can damn near erase you from public view. If you have an internet business they can ruin it. There is no way to escape their influence. Because of this, they have a responsibility to uphold people's natural right to expression. In many ways Google now has more control over speech than governments historically have. If there was a viable competitor this would be different, but there is no such competitor.
  - krapp 7y ago
    >They control the pathways of modern speech. Not true. Almost all modern speech doesn't take place on Youtube or any Google platform. It's possible to broadcast without Google, publish without Google, disseminate without Google, gather without Google, dissent without Google, make phone calls without Google, chat, email, text, audio, video, everything - literally all forms of speech and expression are possible without Google, both on and off the internet. >If Google doesn't like you they can damn near erase you from public view. Also not true. Plenty of people Google "doesn't like" are still in public view. Name one person Google has effectively "disappeared" in this way, and I'll bet they still have a presence elsewhere on the web, still participate in society, still can communicate publicly, be contacted, etc. >If you have an internet business they can ruin it. Maybe. But then so could Amazon. So could your ISP. If losing SEO would ruin your business, the problem isn't Google's power, it's your crappy business model. >There is no way to escape their influence. Really? Do they control you here? In your home? Do they moderate other sites? Do they control Twitter, Facebook, Hacker News? It's arbitrarily easy to escape their influence. They control one platform, not the internet, not society, not governments. >In many ways Google now has more control over speech than governments historically have. Governments can imprison you, torture you, kill you, run over your friends with tanks, nuke entire cities, fill shallow graves with dissidents, burn down libraries and make it legal. Google has no more control over speech than the governments whose laws they must obey by definition. They don't claim a monopoly on violence or sovereign immunity. >If there was a viable competitor this would be different, but there is no such competitor. There are plenty. Google is not the only search engine, and Youtube is not the only video streaming service. Almost every part of your comment is falsehood, hyperbole and nonsense.