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The "instruction hacking.." bit at the end seems a bit out of place given the rest of the page. What it feels like is that its a poorly written attempt to ban s

The "instruction hacking.." bit at the end seems a bit out of place given the rest of the page. What it feels like is that its a poorly written attempt to ban software cracking and the computerized version of the previous "Instructional theft" ban without giving people the mental strings to discover how to get free warez and bypass things like hotel keycards, free token cards for the arcade/etc. Frankly, I'm frequently surprised by what I stumble upon on youtube.. (better article with the TOS bits in question) https://www.malwaretech.com/2019/07/youtubes-new-policy-on-hacking-tutorial-is-a-problem.html https://www.malwaretech.com/2019/07/youtubes-new-policy-on-h...

bloaf 7y ago
Obviously the spirit of the law is for youtube to have a way to remove "how 2 script kiddie" videos. But the letter of the law matters, and right now the letters say they can ban just about any video discussing the details of vulnerable systems.
- StillBored 7y ago
  That is true, but youtube is full of things which basically violate these principals. I will pick the second item "Extremely dangerous challenges" because its nice and safe/generic to talk about. I think everyone understands what they are talking about, but youtube has tons of instructional videos for doing things which could severely maim/kill careless or poorly trained individuals. The infamous Shanghi tower climb/etc video (83M views on just one of the versions) is actually on the tamer side of this, likely only violating a couple of the guidelines. Even, less scary are all the "this is how you run a table saw" like videos. So they have broad guidelines that don't seem to be blanket enforced.
  - bloaf 7y ago
    I think the sentiment in this comic applies here. http://asofterworld.com/index.php?id=346 http://asofterworld.com/index.php?id=346 That is, even if your videos are in-the-clear currently, there is no reason Youtube couldn't decide to interpret its rules more strictly in the future. Maybe your video's genre just hasn't gotten any bad press yet.
  - duskwuff 7y ago
    > "Extremely dangerous challenges" I think you're misinterpreting this part of the ToS. I don't think it's meant to apply to videos of dangerous conduct in general. Instead, it's meant to apply to videos which are explicitly presented as a "challenge" for other users to complete -- along the lines of the ALS "Ice Bucket Challenge", but explicitly harmful (think "Drink a Gallon of Bleach Challenge").

bloaf 7y ago

Obviously the spirit of the law is for youtube to have a way to remove "how 2 script kiddie" videos. But the letter of the law matters, and right now the letters say they can ban just about any video discussing the details of vulnerable systems.

StillBored 7y ago
That is true, but youtube is full of things which basically violate these principals. I will pick the second item "Extremely dangerous challenges" because its nice and safe/generic to talk about. I think everyone understands what they are talking about, but youtube has tons of instructional videos for doing things which could severely maim/kill careless or poorly trained individuals. The infamous Shanghi tower climb/etc video (83M views on just one of the versions) is actually on the tamer side of this, likely only violating a couple of the guidelines. Even, less scary are all the "this is how you run a table saw" like videos. So they have broad guidelines that don't seem to be blanket enforced.
- bloaf 7y ago
  I think the sentiment in this comic applies here. http://asofterworld.com/index.php?id=346 http://asofterworld.com/index.php?id=346 That is, even if your videos are in-the-clear currently, there is no reason Youtube couldn't decide to interpret its rules more strictly in the future. Maybe your video's genre just hasn't gotten any bad press yet.
- duskwuff 7y ago
  > "Extremely dangerous challenges" I think you're misinterpreting this part of the ToS. I don't think it's meant to apply to videos of dangerous conduct in general. Instead, it's meant to apply to videos which are explicitly presented as a "challenge" for other users to complete -- along the lines of the ALS "Ice Bucket Challenge", but explicitly harmful (think "Drink a Gallon of Bleach Challenge").