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What's the point of collecting HN karma if you're not going to spend it occasionally voicing unpopular opinions and making cheap sarcastic replies?
by saalweachter 7y ago
What's the point of collecting HN karma if you're not going to spend it occasionally voicing unpopular opinions and making cheap sarcastic replies?
- flukus 7y agoWell there's the dopamine hit for getting likes. Likes are probably the most destructive drug in society.
- mrhappyunhappy 7y agoHere, have a hit on me buddy.
- ASalazarMX 7y agoIt's not the likes people like, it's the pseudo social acceptance. Being downvoted would be like social rejection, a hit to your reputation. As much as I would love to downvote some Facebook posts, I think they did well at allowing only positive reinforcement. If you don't care, you just don't interact. If someone managed to find a solution to destructive comments everywhere, that would be awesome.
- inamberclad 7y agoThere's no point since you'll be downvoted to the abyssal plane and nobody will see your comment.
- enriquto 7y ago> There's no point since you'll be downvoted to the abyssal plane and nobody will see your comment. We are quite a bunch of people who start reading the comment threads from below!
- briantakita 7y agoSometimes it's a badge of honor to get a bunch of downvotes. It's validation that a "sacred cow" has been cooked into tasty burgers.
- mythrwy 7y agoThe fun part is when those you have disagreed with other threads follow you about to downvote unrelated comments. I expect they feel that they are on a crusade of righteousness of some sort.
- ScottBurson 7y agoSorry, had to upvote this!
- enraged_camel 7y agoYep. When I'm 100% correct about something [1] and I get downvoted, it only strengthens my resolve and solidifies my belief. :) [1]Which is most of the time
- phs318u 7y ago> It's validation that a "sacred cow" has been cooked into tasty burgers. Or that you’re being a jerk. The HN guidance on commentary is clearly a large part of why HN hasn’t devolved into Slashdot, and the generally on-point and respectful discussions invite really interesting and knowledgeable people to hang around, from whom we all benefit. I’ll admit that I’ve occasionally scratched my head over downvotes I’ve received. But while there may well be some that apply votes contrary to the guidelines, in most cases - if I honestly review what I’ve written - I’ve phrased my comment in a way that’s not conducive to productive discourse.
- Intermernet 7y agoI have showdead turned on and always read the dead comments. Sometimes it's a mystery why they're dead (user isn't banned, not seemingly rude or controversial) and I always think it might have been an accidental swarm of down-voting mis-clicks by just enough random users.
- dang 7y agoWhy don't you vouch for them? Vouching is a way for users to rescue [dead] comments that shouldn't be [dead]. Click on the timestamp to go to its page, then click 'vouch' at the top. (There's a small karma threshold for such links to appear.) Comments can be [dead] for many reasons, including software (which doesn't get everything right) or the account being banned (which doesn't mean that every post is bad—indeed, some users start posting good comments only once we've banned them). So there are plenty of good comments that need to be rescued, which is why we introduced vouching in the first place. It works well when users use it.
- NeedMoreTea 7y agoQuick question if I can. Have I triggered some evil spammer bit in the system somehow, as I haven't been able to vouch for a while - it no longer rescues anything. Or did it change to need more than one vote? Thanks.
- dang 7y agoYes, you vouched for too many comments that break the site guidelines, such as personal attacks and flamewars. When an account does that, we eventually notice and take vouching rights away. The feature is for rescuing good comments that are in the spirit of the site, not comments that violate it. We're always happy to restore privileges if people give us reason to believe that they've had a change of heart and want to use HN as intended in the future.
- NeedMoreTea 7y agoWell my first reaction to that is one of amazed disbelief. Personal attacks and flamewars are usually bleeding obvious, and equally easy to avoid. With it having been there a while, I can't think of any specific comments one way or another, but was and have always intended to use it to rescue (typically) a comment making a good point to the discussion, or the question I'd be interested in an answer to as well. So I can't imagine how I crossed whatever line. I generally agree wth the tone of moderation here, and degree of leeway usually given. I think my comment history would bear out in tone and style that I'm using as intended, and I don't recall ever having had a mod pick up any of my comments. :p I disagree with the odd rare one - this is hard to generalise without going away to dig for examples - usually where it seems to get a slap on the wrist for a reasonable, or historically accurate point within the flow of a discussion where the complaint of nationalistic or whatever seems a bit of a stretch. Case in point, the guy posting links that seemed to be reliably going on every climate related topic - I'd have said nowt for one or two, but had seen enough, like on every related post I'd read in a couple of days, that I thought it would have been missed by mods and worth a mention. Others trigger much sooner than I. Make of that as you will. :)
- aldoushuxley001 7y agoIt’s always worth it, but at this rate I’m never gonna get to that vaunted 500 HN karma so I can express my disagreement on comments too (I.e. downvoting)
- undersuit 7y agoSee, you think 500 karma is something to aim for but then you get it and you can't downvote half the comments you want to because that person has 2000 karma.
- zaroth 7y agoIs that actually a thing?
- spacemanmatt 7y agoi only have like 1200 and i can dv anything
- dTal 7y agoI don't think that's how it works. You can't downvote replies to your posts, and you can't downvote a post over 24 hours old.
- hoseja 7y agoDang will come and politely stomp on your neck.
- fit2rule 7y ago"Are we in dang-erous?" 'Yeah baby, you bet we are DANGEROUS!` EDIT: If you have too many scrawny kids on your lawn, get out the hose or get a new lawn. Also, GROW YOUR OWN!