7 ms·

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform (Even worse-so than it is now). How lo

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform (Even worse-so than it is now). How long until biohacking, and other things are blocked based on the same sensitivity triggers for the topic?

olliej 7y ago
Don’t worry the hatespeech will still be there, for something to be banned it needs to do something that like 80% of politicians oppose (“hacking” videos are only useful for crime, so we must stop the kids from criming), or that causes advertisers to pull out, or if the content otherwise hits their bottom line (reporting on hate crimes, privacy, tracker blocking, etc). Anything else is fine - you have to be either small target or get a large amount of media attention for them to enforce some semblance of their stated policies (which is why defcon and black hat videos haven’t been touched)
stcredzero 7y ago
Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform Yahoo's not the place it was in its heyday. Facebook's not the place it was in its heyday. Even Google's not the place it was 10 years ago. I don't think anyone is immune. The best you can do it to make sure the trajectory is positive. Netflix isn't the place it used to be. I think that's positive, though. How long until biohacking, and other things are blocked based on the same sensitivity triggers for the topic? All the really cool stuff should disappear from YouTube. That's just the natural order of things. They no longer want to be edgy. They want to be fat and happy off those big establishment corporate dollars. They've positioned themselves to be the next cable. That just means they want to be the current "vast wasteland." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_and_the_Public_Interest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_and_the_Public_Inte... The faster YouTube becomes the next cable, the better. The less time the public discourse spends squished under the pressing thumb of the corporate oligarchs, the better.
- no-like-no-sub 7y ago
  >"Be sure to hit that like button and subscribe!" When I hear this standard YouTuber meme, I always trip hard over the dislike button and never quite make it to subscribe. :^)
  - realusername 7y ago
    They have to say it because otherwise people don't subscribe. I know some youtubers who never did it hut had to resort to saying it because their subscriber numbers where stagnating otherwise.
    - 8bitchemistry 7y ago
      Then there are refreshing youtube channels like "Primitive Technology" where he never says a word and manages to end up with 9.5 million subscribers...
    - AndrewUnmuted 7y ago
      But you know... people CAN just be ok with their subscriber numbers stagnating a bit. Whoring for likes/subscribes is desperate and it cheapens the hell out of your art. It may give you more likes/subscribes but there are other great things that come from artistic creation than the pitifully minimal effort required by the clicking of a button.
      - Cederfjard 7y ago
        It isn't always about art though? If more subscribers equal more views over time which in turns equals more ad revenue, then I can't blame someone who's trying to make a living for doing something that might come across as cheap to some.
      - indigochill 7y ago
        As I understand, it's not about the likes/subscribes, really, but that at subscriber count directly translated to more favorable monetization terms for the content creator. That is, they're basically internet buskers.
duxup 7y ago
>an expressive and genuine platform (Even worse-so than it is now) Yeah it already is hard enough to dig through the sea of YouTube personalities who mimic each other and start up with the YouTube-isms. Nothing is worse when someone you follow stars doing reaction videos, rants... YouTube drama :( I already rarely leave the handful of channels I follow. Too much garbage to dig through.
- Swizec 7y ago
  My fav part is repeatedly getting recommendations for many years old videos when something like a week’s worth of new comments is uploaded every minute ... why youtube why?
  - rhizome 7y ago
    Because recommendation engines suuuck.
  - Avamander 7y ago
    I've noticed older videos as well and often they're really good. Not everything new is better.
    - Swizec 7y ago
      But it recommends me videos I remember seeing 5 years ago that just seems unnecessary
      - Cederfjard 7y ago
        The point isn't to make you a more informed and well-rounded person, it's to keep you on YouTube so you see more ads. I bet "old favorites" that might make you feel nostalgic or have rewatch value (it's not a gamble, you already know it's good) makes a significant number of people stay longer.
        Swizec 7y ago
deleted 7y ago
[deleted]

olliej 7y ago

Don’t worry the hatespeech will still be there, for something to be banned it needs to do something that like 80% of politicians oppose (“hacking” videos are only useful for crime, so we must stop the kids from criming), or that causes advertisers to pull out, or if the content otherwise hits their bottom line (reporting on hate crimes, privacy, tracker blocking, etc). Anything else is fine - you have to be either small target or get a large amount of media attention for them to enforce some semblance of their stated policies (which is why defcon and black hat videos haven’t been touched)

stcredzero 7y ago

Overbearing youtube, 10 years from now if it's still a medium it may be a far-cry from an expressive and genuine platform Yahoo's not the place it was in its heyday. Facebook's not the place it was in its heyday. Even Google's not the place it was 10 years ago. I don't think anyone is immune. The best you can do it to make sure the trajectory is positive. Netflix isn't the place it used to be. I think that's positive, though. How long until biohacking, and other things are blocked based on the same sensitivity triggers for the topic? All the really cool stuff should disappear from YouTube. That's just the natural order of things. They no longer want to be edgy. They want to be fat and happy off those big establishment corporate dollars. They've positioned themselves to be the next cable. That just means they want to be the current "vast wasteland." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_and_the_Public_Interest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_and_the_Public_Inte... The faster YouTube becomes the next cable, the better. The less time the public discourse spends squished under the pressing thumb of the corporate oligarchs, the better.

no-like-no-sub 7y ago
>"Be sure to hit that like button and subscribe!" When I hear this standard YouTuber meme, I always trip hard over the dislike button and never quite make it to subscribe. :^)
- realusername 7y ago
  They have to say it because otherwise people don't subscribe. I know some youtubers who never did it hut had to resort to saying it because their subscriber numbers where stagnating otherwise.
  - 8bitchemistry 7y ago
    Then there are refreshing youtube channels like "Primitive Technology" where he never says a word and manages to end up with 9.5 million subscribers...
  - AndrewUnmuted 7y ago
    But you know... people CAN just be ok with their subscriber numbers stagnating a bit. Whoring for likes/subscribes is desperate and it cheapens the hell out of your art. It may give you more likes/subscribes but there are other great things that come from artistic creation than the pitifully minimal effort required by the clicking of a button.
    - Cederfjard 7y ago
      It isn't always about art though? If more subscribers equal more views over time which in turns equals more ad revenue, then I can't blame someone who's trying to make a living for doing something that might come across as cheap to some.
    - indigochill 7y ago
      As I understand, it's not about the likes/subscribes, really, but that at subscriber count directly translated to more favorable monetization terms for the content creator. That is, they're basically internet buskers.

duxup 7y ago

>an expressive and genuine platform (Even worse-so than it is now) Yeah it already is hard enough to dig through the sea of YouTube personalities who mimic each other and start up with the YouTube-isms. Nothing is worse when someone you follow stars doing reaction videos, rants... YouTube drama :( I already rarely leave the handful of channels I follow. Too much garbage to dig through.

Swizec 7y ago
My fav part is repeatedly getting recommendations for many years old videos when something like a week’s worth of new comments is uploaded every minute ... why youtube why?
- rhizome 7y ago
  Because recommendation engines suuuck.
- Avamander 7y ago
  I've noticed older videos as well and often they're really good. Not everything new is better.
  - Swizec 7y ago
    But it recommends me videos I remember seeing 5 years ago that just seems unnecessary
    - Cederfjard 7y ago
      The point isn't to make you a more informed and well-rounded person, it's to keep you on YouTube so you see more ads. I bet "old favorites" that might make you feel nostalgic or have rewatch value (it's not a gamble, you already know it's good) makes a significant number of people stay longer.
      - Swizec 7y ago

deleted 7y ago

[deleted]