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And they should be.

by sin7 7y ago

And they should be.

empath75 7y ago
Not really. Amazon’s entire supply chain is filled with counterfeits.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  Why do you think that refutes sin7's point? And, if Amazon's entire supply chain is filled with counterfeits, all the more reason why Amazon should 1) reveal who the seller really is, or 2) be liable for the counterfeits.
  - derefr 7y ago
    You misread the comment you're replying to, I think. empath75's claim "Amazon’s entire supply chain is filled with counterfeits" is intended to mean that parties other than the seller—such as warehouse employees, delivery companies, importers, etc.—are also inserting counterfeits into Amazon's supply chain, such that even products "sold by Amazon" in the strictest legal sense, can potentially still be counterfeits. Given this, customers should already have been wary of purchasing from Amazon, enough that finding out that they're often purchasing from third-parties shouldn't further affect their opinion (i.e. they should already have as low an opinion of Amazon as if they had already known that, because of the other supply-chain problems.)
    - nitrogen 7y ago
      How much of that is supply chain issues and how much is commingling inventory with third party sellers?
    - munk-a 7y ago
      Most people don't have that opinion though - things brought through Amazon are viewed as being vetted and high quality when compared to items through eBay or Wish - Amazon has made no effort to disabuse people of this conception and I personally think they've worked actively to downplay the role the third party plays in product delivery. I've also always been a bit curious if amazon might be liable for defective products shipped through their warehouse by virtue of the transfer of custody alone. This sort of business model is quite new (it's worlds different from a flea market) and there are several interesting commercial responsibility questions around it.

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And they should be.

by sin7 7y ago

And they should be.

empath75 7y ago
Not really. Amazon’s entire supply chain is filled with counterfeits.
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  Why do you think that refutes sin7's point? And, if Amazon's entire supply chain is filled with counterfeits, all the more reason why Amazon should 1) reveal who the seller really is, or 2) be liable for the counterfeits.
  - derefr 7y ago
    You misread the comment you're replying to, I think. empath75's claim "Amazon’s entire supply chain is filled with counterfeits" is intended to mean that parties other than the seller—such as warehouse employees, delivery companies, importers, etc.—are also inserting counterfeits into Amazon's supply chain, such that even products "sold by Amazon" in the strictest legal sense, can potentially still be counterfeits. Given this, customers should already have been wary of purchasing from Amazon, enough that finding out that they're often purchasing from third-parties shouldn't further affect their opinion (i.e. they should already have as low an opinion of Amazon as if they had already known that, because of the other supply-chain problems.)
    - nitrogen 7y ago
      How much of that is supply chain issues and how much is commingling inventory with third party sellers?
    - munk-a 7y ago
      Most people don't have that opinion though - things brought through Amazon are viewed as being vetted and high quality when compared to items through eBay or Wish - Amazon has made no effort to disabuse people of this conception and I personally think they've worked actively to downplay the role the third party plays in product delivery. I've also always been a bit curious if amazon might be liable for defective products shipped through their warehouse by virtue of the transfer of custody alone. This sort of business model is quite new (it's worlds different from a flea market) and there are several interesting commercial responsibility questions around it.