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Except for the functions in the touchscreen, where it appears they’ve taken Tesla’s approach but done a shittier job of it
by wlesieutre 7y ago
Except for the functions in the touchscreen, where it appears they’ve taken Tesla’s approach but done a shittier job of it
- lykr0n 7y agoYeah... Not the best, but I'm sure that head unit will be working in 10 years. Tesla? Don't think so. It's also a €27,900 car, vs a €58,000 Tesla.
- mrtksn 7y agoI used to drive a Renault, the functions on the central screen are mostly for the entertainment and communications and there's another stick with buttons to control these without the need to interact with the touchscreen. It's not perfect but pretending that you need to interact with the touchscreen to drive the car is ridiculous. The buttons may seem confusing at first glance but this is not a website but a car that you literally get trained to ride and stick with it for more than few seconds so in no time all these buttons become second nature. The website domain is "grumpy" so I guess the OP prides himself/herself of being grumpy but I don't think that everyone has to be grumpy.
- dmitriid 7y agoPlease tell me how you control the A/C without touching the screen. For example, for increasing/decreasing fan speed. And how you switch radio stations (I still haven’t figured that) out. Or how you get to a second/third/fourth screen because Renault couldn’t figure out how to show all useful info on one screen. Or, since Bluetooth is finicky, how to initiate phone connection. All the things I had to do while driving, multiple times.
- mrtksn 7y agoYou control the AC from the knobs just below the touch screen, you switch the stations by rotating the button on the stick behind the steering wheel and you adjust the volume from the same stick. You change the audio source from the same stick, switch songs from the same stick using the same buttons. The phone connection is better taken care before start driving if you’re doing it for the first time but after that it instantly connects when you get inside the car with your phone.
- wlesieutre 7y agoBack from a couple days without internet; the one thing I'd add in this conversation is that while on the road I do sometimes want to change AC settings other than the temperature (fan power, AC on/off, vent selection, recirculate). Those are all touchscreen items here that I wouldn't want to do while driving. In my own car I know by feel that my knobs left to right are vent, fan, temperature, and the button row below is AC, rear defog, and recirculate. I can change any of these without looking down. With a device like a smartphone I'm sympathetic to Steve Job's argument that a reconfigurable software keyboard that can pop in and out is great because it can be text input in one app or a fullscreen calculator in another, and you can add more features later via software. I don't buy that argument for a car where the hardware exists, is basically single purpose, and isn't going to get a 7th air vent option in a software update next month. The vents are the vents and I'd like a knob for them please.
- ptaipale 7y agoExcept that Renault has actually very good controls, with separate physical wheels and buttons, for controlling the heater / ariflow, which is essential for driving. Nothing that is important during driving should be controlled through the touch screen. Here Renault is better than Tesla.
- dmitriid 7y ago> with separate physical wheels and buttons, for controlling the heater / ariflow Not on Talisman. You can only set the temperature with knobs. You want to increase/decrease airflow? Welcome to the touchscreen.