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By this definition my air conditioning system is conscious.
by rotrux 7y ago
By this definition my air conditioning system is conscious.
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- mikeg8 7y agoI don't think so. Being turned on/powered up is not equivalent to being awake. "Awake", at minimum, implies a living subject.
- JetSpiegel 7y agoThat is just kicking the definition can down the "living" road.
- sebringj 7y agoExactly. People do this all the time. They project their own experience onto something without taking the time to think if that even applies. Our brain has billions of neurons and trillions of axons, so many that it allows a platform of emergence, not magic. Plants having nothing like this.
- panic 7y agoHow do you know that it isn't?
- uj8efdjkfdshf 7y agoI'd personally back such a definition of consciousness, and reframe the question more as one of what level of consciousness (eg complexity of processing, breadth of collected inputs) must an entity possess before we consider its consciousness as being meaningful to us.
- ta1234567890 7y agoLove this way of framing the subject. Following that line of reasoning, you could say that even the smallest particle/bit of energy has some level of consciousness. Then you could also say that Earth (and any planet or star), is also conscious, and at a way higher level than we (humans) are.
- blackhaz 7y agoSo we've got to panpsychism. Why not? We're in the company of Thales, Plato, Spinoza and Leibniz.
- ta1234567890 7y agoThank you for teaching me something new, had never heard of panpsychism before - fascinating. Do you know of this concept has been incorporated into physics somehow? Are there any models in physics that consider panpsychism as fundamental? (i.e. That consider consciousness as a basic property of matter/energy, just like the 3 special dimensions or time)
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- cnvqjpwips 7y agohttps://reducing-suffering.org/is-there-suffering-in-fundamental-physics https://reducing-suffering.org/is-there-suffering-in-fundame...
- solipsism 7y agoThen you could also say that Earth (and any planet or star), is also conscious, and at a way higher level than we (humans) are. What's the point of the word "conscious" if it's just a synonym of the word "complex"? If it doesn't add anything, it's not worth having the word.
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