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Isn't that how most home door locks work, though? Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water here, it's pretty helpful to have legal deterrents to amoral

• JoshTriplett 7y ago
  > Isn't that how most home door locks work, though? Not at all. Short of building a fortress, you won't stop someone determined to get inside, but you can make it sufficiently difficult that they're more likely to be noticed, or more likely to seek out an easier alternative. > it's pretty helpful to have legal deterrents to amoral actions... Nobody is suggesting otherwise; rather, the issue is that legislating against something doesn't stop it from happening, and therefore you do still need to secure against it as part of your threat model. Furthermore, laws tend to paint with a very broad brush; changing a number in a URL isn't "hacking", for instance. Laws should work with technical measures. Climbing a fence makes it much more obvious that you're trespassing.
  • diminoten 7y ago
    Wait, "Not at all"? Yes, it very much is, what you just said is literally the explanation I would give if someone asked me to explain why a front door lock is a legislative protection, not an actual security feature... Legislation meaning you don't need to defend against it is actually quite real in meat space (and quite effective), so pretending like it's universally a bad idea is incongruous with your own facts.
• testvox 7y ago
  Most people do not live in houses that I would call "secure systems". The reason locks in residential homes are not that sophisticated is because it's not worth the cost to make them secure when there is still going to be a glass window right next to it.