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Unpopular hypothesis: Executive function is causally correlated with health and wealth.

ZeroGravitas 7y ago
Ironically something negatively affected by lead exposure, yet the comment you reply to seems to be judging people in poor area's decisions as being a factor in theit health outcomes while at the same time minimising lead poisoning's impact.
- anonuser123456 7y ago
  I don't blame poor people for their plight. I didn't bootstrap myself to high executive function, the universe just gave it to me. Those affected by environmental lead are no more in charge. But we have to get to the root cause of inequality to begin talking about a solution. Most people have poor health because they make poor decisions. So either we disallow them agency and act as their perpetual nanny, or accept the world isn't perfect and that distributions will be unequal. Throwing money at the problem won't help. You can spend unlimited healthcare dollars for no measurable benefit.
  - ncallaway 7y ago
    From your writing, it sounds like from your perspective there are only two outcomes: * Unacceptably nanny people * Do nothing and accept inequality in life, and make no mitigations to prevent it You have listed a lot of things that you think won't work. What do you think _will_ work, that allows people agency and doesn't require acting as their perpetual nanny?
rootusrootus 7y ago
That's probably not that unpopular. At least among people who haven't gotten significantly ill yet.
jhayward 7y ago
This isn't an actual contribution, it's trolling. Future executive function is highly correlated with high socio-economic status of childhood.
- anonuser123456 7y ago
  Since it is also herritable, why would that be surprising?
  - jhayward 7y ago
    The correlation is environment, not heredity. Twin studies. Please do not push any further toward the underlying message of white/western supremacy.
    - anonuser123456 7y ago
      Your underlying arguement here is truly loathsome. To argue that genetics plays an insignificant role in executive function is to pervert the science so far as to basically be a lie. As for my white Western supremecy message, I'll try to pass along your recommendation to my biracial children.
fwip 7y ago
Better hypothesis: wealth and health make executive functioning easier.
- holbrad 7y ago
  Why would that be a better hypothesis? It seems likely that for all of these factors the arrow of causality would go in both directions. Being wealthier allows you to spend more time, money and effort on health (though with diminishing returns). You can spend more time and effort learning Being healthier, allows you do physically work more both short and long term. There are also cognitive benefits from healthy activities like exercise. Being born with a high IQ and raised well, lets you potentially make better health choices and being smarter allows greater access to financially beneficial activities. They are interlinked.
  - fwip 7y ago
    Being born with a high IQ is like being born with a high SAT - it isn't real.

Ironically something negatively affected by lead exposure, yet the comment you reply to seems to be judging people in poor area's decisions as being a factor in theit health outcomes while at the same time minimising lead poisoning's impact.

anonuser123456 7y ago
I don't blame poor people for their plight. I didn't bootstrap myself to high executive function, the universe just gave it to me. Those affected by environmental lead are no more in charge. But we have to get to the root cause of inequality to begin talking about a solution. Most people have poor health because they make poor decisions. So either we disallow them agency and act as their perpetual nanny, or accept the world isn't perfect and that distributions will be unequal. Throwing money at the problem won't help. You can spend unlimited healthcare dollars for no measurable benefit.
- ncallaway 7y ago
  From your writing, it sounds like from your perspective there are only two outcomes: * Unacceptably nanny people * Do nothing and accept inequality in life, and make no mitigations to prevent it You have listed a lot of things that you think won't work. What do you think _will_ work, that allows people agency and doesn't require acting as their perpetual nanny?

rootusrootus 7y ago

That's probably not that unpopular. At least among people who haven't gotten significantly ill yet.

jhayward 7y ago

This isn't an actual contribution, it's trolling. Future executive function is highly correlated with high socio-economic status of childhood.

anonuser123456 7y ago
Since it is also herritable, why would that be surprising?
- jhayward 7y ago
  The correlation is environment, not heredity. Twin studies. Please do not push any further toward the underlying message of white/western supremacy.
  - anonuser123456 7y ago
    Your underlying arguement here is truly loathsome. To argue that genetics plays an insignificant role in executive function is to pervert the science so far as to basically be a lie. As for my white Western supremecy message, I'll try to pass along your recommendation to my biracial children.

fwip 7y ago

Better hypothesis: wealth and health make executive functioning easier.

holbrad 7y ago
Why would that be a better hypothesis? It seems likely that for all of these factors the arrow of causality would go in both directions. Being wealthier allows you to spend more time, money and effort on health (though with diminishing returns). You can spend more time and effort learning Being healthier, allows you do physically work more both short and long term. There are also cognitive benefits from healthy activities like exercise. Being born with a high IQ and raised well, lets you potentially make better health choices and being smarter allows greater access to financially beneficial activities. They are interlinked.
- fwip 7y ago
  Being born with a high IQ is like being born with a high SAT - it isn't real.