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edit: type 2 Diabetes is a preventable condition, please see my parent edit. Even if it wasn't preventable, apparently only 20% of the disparity is due to unequ

edit: type 2 Diabetes is a preventable condition, please see my parent edit. Even if it wasn't preventable, apparently only 20% of the disparity is due to unequal healthcare. We don't need better health care. We just need people to care about their health. to the people commenting that t1 is not preventable.. yes. I know that. I also know that type 2 is 23x more common in the US so it's really a nitpick imo: http://diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/ http://diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/

jedberg 7y ago
> Diabetes is a preventable condition You should probably look into Type 1 diabetes.
toomuchtodo 7y ago
Type 1 Diabetes is not. Please do not state misinformation. You can’t will a pancreas to cooperate.
- ndiscussion 7y ago
  please see that we have 23x type 2 as type 1 in the US: http://diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/ http://diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    This still doesn’t address the wild inefficiencies in the US healthcare system causing us to spend more per capita than any other first world country with poorer outcomes. People should take care of their health, but that is not going to fix US healthcare (such as private insurance, pharma, and healthcare providers gouging healthcare consumers). Stab at the heart of the beast.
krisrm 7y ago
Type 1 diabetes is not preventable, and it makes it necessary to take insulin. If there were a clear path to eliminate that 20% disparity, why shouldn't that path be pursued?
- ndiscussion 7y ago
  Perhaps it should be pursued. Actually yes, I think it should. But I think the article is trying to imply that it all has to do with wealth as a cause, not wealth as a substitute identifier for a host of healthy habits. The healthy habits are not expensive, but mostly rich people seem to adopt them.
  - save_ferris 7y ago
    This just isn't true for several reasons, but I'll pick one and run with it. Learning to cook is time-consuming and can be frustrating for some people. The skill of cooking is essential to eating better. You really have to learn to make your own food to maximize your health. How do you expect someone working a full-time minimum-wage job, driving Uber on the side (because I meet almost nobody in rideshares that don't also do something else), taking care of children to find the time to learn to cook? Do they own all of the equipment that they need to be able to cook? Put simply, they wouldn't be in a position to have to juggle between such terribly paying work and everything else. Many of them probably see fast food as a solution to work more and earn more since their pay is literally hourly. Can you honestly nnot understand why they might prefer the extra $8?
    - save_ferris 7y ago
      Also, read up on food deserts, it's a huge problem in America. 25 million people have limited to no access to fresh & healthy options at their grocery store. Your grocery store likely doesn't have that problem. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
Nasrudith 7y ago
Newsflash - type 2 diabetes can also affect those who are and always were of healthy weight and diet. You can't just make health problems insignificant blaming.
- anonuser123456 7y ago
  The vast majority of type two diabetes is preventable. That which is not is likely misdiagnosed late onset type 1.
  - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
    Do you have any sources for that? They are two separate conditions, with two separate causes and severities.
    - anonuser123456 7y ago
      https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/clarifying-lada-type-1-diabetes-in-adults#1 https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/clarifying-lada-type...
      - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
        I wasn't aware. Thanks!
- beenBoutIT 7y ago
  Americans who manage to avoid knowing that they have Type 1 diabetes long enough to eventually be misdiagnosed as having Type 2 diabetes are a testament to the failure of America's healthcare. These types of cases should be nonexistent in any country with modern healthcare.
holbrad 7y ago
Type 2 diabetes, isn't just completely preventable its largely reversible. (https://www.virtahealth.com/research https://www.virtahealth.com/research)

jedberg 7y ago

> Diabetes is a preventable condition You should probably look into Type 1 diabetes.

toomuchtodo 7y ago

Type 1 Diabetes is not. Please do not state misinformation. You can’t will a pancreas to cooperate.

ndiscussion 7y ago
please see that we have 23x type 2 as type 1 in the US: http://diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/ http://diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/statistics/
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  This still doesn’t address the wild inefficiencies in the US healthcare system causing us to spend more per capita than any other first world country with poorer outcomes. People should take care of their health, but that is not going to fix US healthcare (such as private insurance, pharma, and healthcare providers gouging healthcare consumers). Stab at the heart of the beast.

krisrm 7y ago

Type 1 diabetes is not preventable, and it makes it necessary to take insulin. If there were a clear path to eliminate that 20% disparity, why shouldn't that path be pursued?

ndiscussion 7y ago
Perhaps it should be pursued. Actually yes, I think it should. But I think the article is trying to imply that it all has to do with wealth as a cause, not wealth as a substitute identifier for a host of healthy habits. The healthy habits are not expensive, but mostly rich people seem to adopt them.
- save_ferris 7y ago
  This just isn't true for several reasons, but I'll pick one and run with it. Learning to cook is time-consuming and can be frustrating for some people. The skill of cooking is essential to eating better. You really have to learn to make your own food to maximize your health. How do you expect someone working a full-time minimum-wage job, driving Uber on the side (because I meet almost nobody in rideshares that don't also do something else), taking care of children to find the time to learn to cook? Do they own all of the equipment that they need to be able to cook? Put simply, they wouldn't be in a position to have to juggle between such terribly paying work and everything else. Many of them probably see fast food as a solution to work more and earn more since their pay is literally hourly. Can you honestly nnot understand why they might prefer the extra $8?
  - save_ferris 7y ago
    Also, read up on food deserts, it's a huge problem in America. 25 million people have limited to no access to fresh & healthy options at their grocery store. Your grocery store likely doesn't have that problem. 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert

Nasrudith 7y ago

Newsflash - type 2 diabetes can also affect those who are and always were of healthy weight and diet. You can't just make health problems insignificant blaming.

anonuser123456 7y ago
The vast majority of type two diabetes is preventable. That which is not is likely misdiagnosed late onset type 1.
- SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
  Do you have any sources for that? They are two separate conditions, with two separate causes and severities.
  - anonuser123456 7y ago
    https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/clarifying-lada-type-1-diabetes-in-adults#1 https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/clarifying-lada-type...
    - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
      I wasn't aware. Thanks!
beenBoutIT 7y ago
Americans who manage to avoid knowing that they have Type 1 diabetes long enough to eventually be misdiagnosed as having Type 2 diabetes are a testament to the failure of America's healthcare. These types of cases should be nonexistent in any country with modern healthcare.

holbrad 7y ago

Type 2 diabetes, isn't just completely preventable its largely reversible. (https://www.virtahealth.com/research https://www.virtahealth.com/research)