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Actually, I started wondering the last few minutes : what if the next worldwar would start on the internet? Or is this a common assumption already? I had not c
by the-dude 7y ago
Actually, I started wondering the last few minutes : what if the next worldwar would start on the internet? Or is this a common assumption already?
I had not connected Huawei to my conspiracy theory yet, but just did.
- dreamcompiler 7y agoPeople who make defense policy have been assuming the answer to that question was "yes" for about 20 years now. It's sometimes described as "cyber precedes kinetic." https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG1215.html https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG1215.html
- the-dude 7y agoThank you. So we are basically waiting for a Twitter outage.
- wallflower 7y agoIf Dropbox goes down, then something serious may be going on.
- cnorthwood 7y agoI think Twitter DMs are having issues too...
- TuringNYC 7y agoOk, so unfriendly sovereign nations are trying to “hurt” us by making social media inaccessible? I’m half joking here, but perhaps we should all be out, about, and enjoying Independence Day in person rather than through our phone screens. (Yes I realize WhatsApp is a different segment, an important way people communicate.)
- the-dude 7y agoAfghani independence day? Or Iraqi independence day? Or did you mean Libian independence day? Syrian perhaps? In NL there is currently no independence day.
- mandelbrotwurst 7y agoParent is referring to the holiday tomorrow in the United States.
- wongarsu 7y agoI think GP understood quite well and wanted to express their dissatisfaction with the assumption that everyone is American.
- dvtrn 7y agoIs there an official HN stance on this? There have been times I comment, with frustration, that a statement/positions can be hard to grok for those who don't have an automatically-American context in mind (you know, because they might not live in America) the downvotes come swiftly and snarky comments about "this is an American messageboard" follow. So I'm actually genuinely curious what YC/HN's official position on this is. Asking broadly.
- TuringNYC 7y agoThere was already a US-centric context via the parent comment: It was a link to a RAND report warning the US Military of cyber-attacks in the US, the report starting off as: "The chances are growing that the United States will find itself in a crisis in cyberspace, with the escalation of tensions associated with a major cyberattack, suspicions that one has taken place, or fears that it might do so soon."
- mandelbrotwurst 7y agoIf that's the case, then they should have make that critique directly rather than beat around it with questions that they didn't actually need answered.
- altec3 7y agoAll three apps are huge for communication. It doesn't seem far fetched that a nation would test its capabilities taking down different forms of communication.
- RandallBrown 7y agoYou might love Neal Stephenson's latest book "Fall, or Dodge In Hell" It's not quite about a world war on the Internet, but it is about what could happen if the Internet suddenly stops working somewhere.
- kfrzcode 7y agoNitpick, but it's: Fall; or, Dodge in Hell
- Bayart 7y agoPeople would start by attacking telecoms much like they used to start with rail and harbours.