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> Parents of problem kids do everything they can to push their children’s behavioral issues back on the teachers. Whew. That's a lot of labeling! And the solut
by Arubis 7y ago
> Parents of problem kids do everything they can to push their children’s behavioral issues back on the teachers.
Whew. That's a lot of labeling! And the solution is to build evidence to be used against these tiny criminals.
Rather than just presume the kids are little shits on purpose and recording them to prove it, why not ask the kid what's going on at home? I'd bet real money that "lack of discipline" maps pretty closely to "lack of a stable home environment".
- panzagl 7y agoWell, yeah, but calling a parent in and saying 'you need to stop partying until 3am with your boyfriend of the week so Timmy can get some sleep and not be an impulsive little monster with no respect for his female teacher' does not go as well as you'd think.
- bilbo0s 7y agoDoesn't mean it's not true.
- mikepurvis 7y agoI don't see how this scenario is changed by having video of the child's misbehaviour.
- panzagl 7y agoBecause discipline can be made to stick- Timmy can be suspended and when Mom comes in to say it can't be his fault, because that would imply it was her fault and she's never been held responsible for her actions before, oh well too bad video doesn't lie. Otherwise admin backs down about 50% of the time. If you want to point out that this doesn't help Timmy, I'd agree. It does help the other 29 kids in the class, their parents, the teacher, and admin though.
- LitFan 7y agoIt helps the other 29 kids in the class until there are altercations involving 5-7 of those. Then it helps the other 22 kids in the class. What's the endgame? Do you suspend half the kids in the classroom because they're causing a disturbance for the other half? Something this whole argument misses is that school is a great mechanism to teach kids to interact with each other and learn to solve problems. It's a bad idea to teach kids that everything is always black and white.
- vraivroo 7y ago> Do you suspend half the kids in the classroom because they're causing a disturbance for the other half? Yes, you do! > that school is a great mechanism to teach kids to interact with each other and learn to solve problems. What kind of utopian school did you go to? None of my schools did this, at _all_.
- Boebo 7y agoSo because teaching 1on1 conflict resolution has not been done at your school you prefer to have kids monitored and teach them conflicts will be resolved by pleading to a higher all seeing authority which tells you who was naughty and who was nice...mkay.
- elliekelly 7y agoPerhaps you could find a way to articulate your point about irresponsible parents without so much sexism. Or even better, without any sexism.
- tptacek 7y agoBecause the teacher's job should be to teach, not to be a social worker.
- greedo 7y agoTeachers in K-12 have never been focused on solely dispensing academic knowledge. Acclimation, acculturation, socialization; the list goes on of what they've always been expected to do. My MIL always said that her job (K-4) was to teach the little monsters how to be civilized. If they learned the three Rs, that was a bonus.
- giaour 7y agoTrue, but they should also not be required to secure surveillance infrastructure and purge collected data at regular intervals.
- tptacek 7y agoWhy would they be?
- astazangasta 7y agoWhat do you think teachers are actually teaching? One of the very, very important skills kids learn is how to be socialized - how to behave with others in a social setting, how to be quiet and pay attention when that is appropriate, how to settle conflicts. These are all skills you can and should be learning in school. This is what teachers do, they don't just drill you on the three Rs.
- vraivroo 7y agoSure, because children don't have personality or autonomy. You only get that when you turn 18. /s