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>It's a service very few people use that costs them money to maintain and support. I'm not a Spotify expert so I'm not understanding why independents artist wi

by jasode 7y ago

>It's a service very few people use that costs them money to maintain and support. I'm not a Spotify expert so I'm not understanding why independents artist without labels "costs money to maintain support" that isn't already spent to enable the labels to upload their artists' songs. Let's say a Universal Music Group[1] representative logs into Spotify's system to upload Justin Bieber's latest 4-minute song. (Spotify has spent money on their backend system to enable this upload workflow.) Why does it cost more to Spotify to let the unknown-Joe-Blow-not-signed-to-a-label upload his 4-minute song? [1] https://www.umusicpub.com/us/Artists.aspx https://www.umusicpub.com/us/Artists.aspx

zimpenfish 7y ago
> Why does it cost more to Spotify to let the unknown-Joe-Blow-not-signed-to-a-label upload his 4-minute song? Unless I'm mistaken, Spotify would get the new Bieber automagically via an ERN (Electronic Release Notification) delivery which contains asset links, artist, meta, rights information etc. Since that's from a trusted* source, it can be ingested as-is and everyone is happy. For independent uploads, there's almost certainly several steps of human review and possibly interaction - which costs money and time.
- nske 7y ago
  If that was the case they could have just passed some handling fees to the indie artists -that would still be much more reasonable than the fees that the artists would have to pay to a publisher. I think the record companies -still in the process of understanding and adjusting to the new business model that Spotify established- pushed for this, one way or the other, to ensure that Spotify doesn't become a competitor like Amazon became to book publishers.
  - jakelazaroff 7y ago
    Distributing your music isn't really financially burdensome as is. Most distributors cost in the range of $20-$30 per year. Some are even free.
barkingcat 7y ago
Your assumption that they go through the same work flow might be mistaken. The same type of questioning applied to banks and transferring money: Why would it cost a bank more money to print and mail checks to individual people when they already do balance transfer payments every night to other banks and branches?
dtech 7y ago
> Why does it cost more to Spotify to let the unknown-Joe-Blow-not-signed-to-a-label upload his 4-minute song? It all boils down to that Joe Blow is an unstrusted actor and big label is not. They needs to check that Joe Blow is not uploading Bieber's latest song as his own and that all the metadata is correct while they not need do that for most labels.

by jasode 7y ago

zimpenfish 7y ago

> Why does it cost more to Spotify to let the unknown-Joe-Blow-not-signed-to-a-label upload his 4-minute song? Unless I'm mistaken, Spotify would get the new Bieber automagically via an ERN (Electronic Release Notification) delivery which contains asset links, artist, meta, rights information etc. Since that's from a trusted* source, it can be ingested as-is and everyone is happy. For independent uploads, there's almost certainly several steps of human review and possibly interaction - which costs money and time.

nske 7y ago
If that was the case they could have just passed some handling fees to the indie artists -that would still be much more reasonable than the fees that the artists would have to pay to a publisher. I think the record companies -still in the process of understanding and adjusting to the new business model that Spotify established- pushed for this, one way or the other, to ensure that Spotify doesn't become a competitor like Amazon became to book publishers.
- jakelazaroff 7y ago
  Distributing your music isn't really financially burdensome as is. Most distributors cost in the range of $20-$30 per year. Some are even free.

barkingcat 7y ago

Your assumption that they go through the same work flow might be mistaken. The same type of questioning applied to banks and transferring money: Why would it cost a bank more money to print and mail checks to individual people when they already do balance transfer payments every night to other banks and branches?

dtech 7y ago

> Why does it cost more to Spotify to let the unknown-Joe-Blow-not-signed-to-a-label upload his 4-minute song? It all boils down to that Joe Blow is an unstrusted actor and big label is not. They needs to check that Joe Blow is not uploading Bieber's latest song as his own and that all the metadata is correct while they not need do that for most labels.