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I read an interview with the rector of the university on a reputable german news site (https://www.spiegel.de/lebenundlernen/uni/frauenquote-an-tu-eindhoven-war

I read an interview with the rector of the university on a reputable german news site (https://www.spiegel.de/lebenundlernen/uni/frauenquote-an-tu-eindhoven-warum-diese-uni-nur-noch-frauen-einstellt-a-1274769.html https://www.spiegel.de/lebenundlernen/uni/frauenquote-an-tu-...). Also, the original source you cited clears says: > For the next year and a half, this will apply to 100 percent of vacancies, after which the university will review the percentage covered by the scheme each year. but frankly, I don't really understand what they mean by "in the first six months of recruitment".

DanielleMolloy 7y ago
Even in that article with its highly click-baity and wrong headline (Spiegel Online has not been "reputable" for long time) they say that 18 months is merely the period after which they want to evaluate their 5-year program. The interview clearly says that the rule applies to "the first 6 months of recruitment", which in my understanding of the process means "after the job ad is posted". Btw, imho Dutch people have a tendency for "certainly good enough" solutions because it keeps things moving (instead of perfectionist stagnation whenever confronted with complexity like us germans often do). This 6-month period of only looking at female applicants during recruitment looks like one of those. Nobody says that this will stay the rule forever. Also consider that they will get very few female applicants anyway, so there is still a lot of room for men.
- gdfasfklshg4 7y ago
  This solution is straight up sexual discrimination. Pure and simple. I can't accept that any solution that is purely discriminatory is "good enough".
  - DanielleMolloy 7y ago
    I do agree. It also sends the wrong signals. But try to understand the thinking for a moment: If no solution is applied at all because people are waiting for the perfect one, there will be continued discrimination against competence. This has costs too. "Take no action" might not feel like a decision, but it is one and has ill effects. Is this better than trying a fix for a short period of time that may be mediocre, but is at least effective?
trax 7y ago
What the actual fuck. I'm glad I didn't choose to continue my studies there.

DanielleMolloy 7y ago

Even in that article with its highly click-baity and wrong headline (Spiegel Online has not been "reputable" for long time) they say that 18 months is merely the period after which they want to evaluate their 5-year program. The interview clearly says that the rule applies to "the first 6 months of recruitment", which in my understanding of the process means "after the job ad is posted". Btw, imho Dutch people have a tendency for "certainly good enough" solutions because it keeps things moving (instead of perfectionist stagnation whenever confronted with complexity like us germans often do). This 6-month period of only looking at female applicants during recruitment looks like one of those. Nobody says that this will stay the rule forever. Also consider that they will get very few female applicants anyway, so there is still a lot of room for men.

gdfasfklshg4 7y ago
This solution is straight up sexual discrimination. Pure and simple. I can't accept that any solution that is purely discriminatory is "good enough".
- DanielleMolloy 7y ago
  I do agree. It also sends the wrong signals. But try to understand the thinking for a moment: If no solution is applied at all because people are waiting for the perfect one, there will be continued discrimination against competence. This has costs too. "Take no action" might not feel like a decision, but it is one and has ill effects. Is this better than trying a fix for a short period of time that may be mediocre, but is at least effective?

trax 7y ago

What the actual fuck. I'm glad I didn't choose to continue my studies there.