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Andy Rubin accused of cheating wife out of fortune while running a sex ring

42 points by SeanBoocock 7y ago

gjsman-1000 7y ago
Obviously, due process for him, and people say weird stuff in divorce courts. However, an accusation by his wife that he cheated her out of his earnings AND ran a sex ring? That's quite... another level of accusations. Weinstein, anyone?
- hedora 7y ago
  Here are similar allegations from google security: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-andy-rubin-sexual-misconduct-allegations-nyt-2018-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-andy-rubin-sexual-mis...
  - gjsman-1000 7y ago
    I'm just saying, everything comes out in divorce courts. This is on a whole new level. Like, so insane, it's almost certainly true. Otherwise he could possibly sue his wife for serious defamation.
    - hedora 7y ago
      He could also sue google for defamation, presumably (unless the $90M severance package came with strings attached)
    - deleted 7y ago
      [deleted]
  - b_tterc_p 7y ago
    > Google's security staff found bondage sex videos on Rubin's work computer, according to three anonymous executives familiar with the incident. For that case, Rubin's yearly bonus was dinged. That’s... weird...
    - gjsman-1000 7y ago
      They "dinged" his yearly bonus over that? Now that IS a weird way of responding. If this had been any other employee, male or female, would this have been received "only" with a ding in pay?
      - true_religion 7y ago
        I don’t see the issue really. He basically watched porn on his work machine, while off the clock.
  - gjsman-1000 7y ago
    "In an email to employees on Thursday, CEO Sundar Pichai said the following: "In recent years, we've made a number of changes, including taking an increasingly hard line on inappropriate conduct by people in positions of authority: in the last two years, 48 people have been terminated for sexual harassment, including 13 who were senior managers and above. None of these individuals received an exit package."" - Well, then, sure, none of THOSE employees got an exit package. But Rubin sure did. And he got an exit package so large, that it could be divided into 13 pieces and still have all of those execs happy.
- amanzi 7y ago
  I don't see any relevance to comparing him to Weinstein?
  - gjsman-1000 7y ago
    Weinstein got away with building a multibillion dollar business while being, according to accusations, an incredible sexual predator - all while evading detection. It appears Rubin has done the exact same thing. Instead of the movie business, the phone business.
    - amanzi 7y ago
      I'm not seeing any allegations or evidence of him being a sexual predator. Weinstein was accused of rape by several women and had many other women accusing him of other sexual misconduct.
    - Gibbon1 7y ago
      > all while evading detection Evade nothing he had a small army of people enabling and covering for him.
YeahSureWhyNot 7y ago
MeToo gold digger edition.
- plink 7y ago
  I’ bet she wasn’t trying to dig gold out of his Essential Phone project.
stevespang 7y ago
According to the complaint, her lawyer had represented Andy in a previous divorce, presenting a significant conflict of interest that Andy allegedly concealed from Rie. If this is true the prenup is worthless and will be set aside by an American judge. However, in most 3rd world countries the judge would simply be bribed and the prenup stands.
forgingahead 7y ago
Can we not post/comment on unproven allegations on this site? I get that this may be "exciting" and perhaps even "titillating" given who Rubin is, but come on -- the article itself says none of these allegations have been confirmed by the court. Let's keep this as Hacker News, not the Daily Mail.
- gjsman-1000 7y ago
  Unproven, but incredible high odds of proof. There are actual screenshots of his messages in court filings, according to Business Insider. Secondly, this is allowed by HN. Plus, he founded Android after all. Whenever a big-name programmer has a big-name incident, of course we can comment on it here. Elizabeth Holmes? Still technically Unproven, but we all know by now.
  - gjsman-1000 7y ago
    Go here, and go to Slide 10. Pretty damning. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-Rubin-complain7-2-19.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-...
    - belorn 7y ago
      I might be missing a detail here, but how is page 10 relevant to the validity of the premarital contract? The key argument seems to be page 4, which says that the lawyer of the wife had worked for Rubin in the past and filed a restraining order against the Rubin previous wife. The claim is that because of this the contract should be nullified because the wife did not have proper legal representation when she signed it. Seems pretty dull and fairly common court case where a judge will make a decision to either uphold or nullify a contract based on circumstances. Page 10 seems like a distraction because the contract did not have a "cheating clause", and regardless, the argument in the case is that the contract is invalid. If the contract is invalid then that relevance of slide 10 is unimportant, and if the contract is valid then the relevance of slide is also unimportant.
  - labster 7y ago
3xblah 7y ago
The complaint, including copy of the prenuptual agreement: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-Rubin-complain7-2-19.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-...

42 points by SeanBoocock 7y ago

Obviously, due process for him, and people say weird stuff in divorce courts. However, an accusation by his wife that he cheated her out of his earnings AND ran a sex ring? That's quite... another level of accusations. Weinstein, anyone?

hedora 7y ago
Here are similar allegations from google security: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-andy-rubin-sexual-misconduct-allegations-nyt-2018-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/google-andy-rubin-sexual-mis...
- gjsman-1000 7y ago
  I'm just saying, everything comes out in divorce courts. This is on a whole new level. Like, so insane, it's almost certainly true. Otherwise he could possibly sue his wife for serious defamation.
  - hedora 7y ago
    He could also sue google for defamation, presumably (unless the $90M severance package came with strings attached)
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
- b_tterc_p 7y ago
  > Google's security staff found bondage sex videos on Rubin's work computer, according to three anonymous executives familiar with the incident. For that case, Rubin's yearly bonus was dinged. That’s... weird...
  - gjsman-1000 7y ago
    They "dinged" his yearly bonus over that? Now that IS a weird way of responding. If this had been any other employee, male or female, would this have been received "only" with a ding in pay?
    - true_religion 7y ago
      I don’t see the issue really. He basically watched porn on his work machine, while off the clock.
- gjsman-1000 7y ago
  "In an email to employees on Thursday, CEO Sundar Pichai said the following: "In recent years, we've made a number of changes, including taking an increasingly hard line on inappropriate conduct by people in positions of authority: in the last two years, 48 people have been terminated for sexual harassment, including 13 who were senior managers and above. None of these individuals received an exit package."" - Well, then, sure, none of THOSE employees got an exit package. But Rubin sure did. And he got an exit package so large, that it could be divided into 13 pieces and still have all of those execs happy.
amanzi 7y ago
I don't see any relevance to comparing him to Weinstein?
- gjsman-1000 7y ago
  Weinstein got away with building a multibillion dollar business while being, according to accusations, an incredible sexual predator - all while evading detection. It appears Rubin has done the exact same thing. Instead of the movie business, the phone business.
  - amanzi 7y ago
    I'm not seeing any allegations or evidence of him being a sexual predator. Weinstein was accused of rape by several women and had many other women accusing him of other sexual misconduct.
  - Gibbon1 7y ago
    > all while evading detection Evade nothing he had a small army of people enabling and covering for him.

YeahSureWhyNot 7y ago

MeToo gold digger edition.

plink 7y ago
I’ bet she wasn’t trying to dig gold out of his Essential Phone project.

stevespang 7y ago

According to the complaint, her lawyer had represented Andy in a previous divorce, presenting a significant conflict of interest that Andy allegedly concealed from Rie. If this is true the prenup is worthless and will be set aside by an American judge. However, in most 3rd world countries the judge would simply be bribed and the prenup stands.

forgingahead 7y ago

Can we not post/comment on unproven allegations on this site? I get that this may be "exciting" and perhaps even "titillating" given who Rubin is, but come on -- the article itself says none of these allegations have been confirmed by the court. Let's keep this as Hacker News, not the Daily Mail.

gjsman-1000 7y ago
Unproven, but incredible high odds of proof. There are actual screenshots of his messages in court filings, according to Business Insider. Secondly, this is allowed by HN. Plus, he founded Android after all. Whenever a big-name programmer has a big-name incident, of course we can comment on it here. Elizabeth Holmes? Still technically Unproven, but we all know by now.
- gjsman-1000 7y ago
  Go here, and go to Slide 10. Pretty damning. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-Rubin-complain7-2-19.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-...
  - belorn 7y ago
    I might be missing a detail here, but how is page 10 relevant to the validity of the premarital contract? The key argument seems to be page 4, which says that the lawyer of the wife had worked for Rubin in the past and filed a restraining order against the Rubin previous wife. The claim is that because of this the contract should be nullified because the wife did not have proper legal representation when she signed it. Seems pretty dull and fairly common court case where a judge will make a decision to either uphold or nullify a contract based on circumstances. Page 10 seems like a distraction because the contract did not have a "cheating clause", and regardless, the argument in the case is that the contract is invalid. If the contract is invalid then that relevance of slide 10 is unimportant, and if the contract is valid then the relevance of slide is also unimportant.
- labster 7y ago

3xblah 7y ago

The complaint, including copy of the prenuptual agreement: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-Rubin-complain7-2-19.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6180235/Rie-Andy-...