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I wouldn't trust Mozilla with such a thing. Actually, I wouldn't trust any silicon valley corporation. I predict that Mozilla would ban wrong-thinkers from the

I wouldn't trust Mozilla with such a thing. Actually, I wouldn't trust any silicon valley corporation. I predict that Mozilla would ban wrong-thinkers from their service using the excuse of hate speech. Want to donate to a progressive/leftist organization? Mozilla will gladly help you. Want to donate to a right wing conservative? Mozilla doesn't allow "bigots" on their platform. They did exaxtly that with the Dissenter extension. It has to be decentralized.

metildaa 7y ago
Advocating for assaulting and murdering fellow people in your country will result in Visa, Mastercard, American Express & Discover pulling the plug on your merchant account. All the payments networks have morals clauses in their payments contracts, InfoWars blatantly violated said contract and has kicked up a fit over First Data doing what they are contractually obligated to do. Some of the frontends like First Data can be very restricitive with their own morals clauses, banning bars, sex shops, book stores, and various other "wrong think". Bitcoin and other schemes will never have a reliable connection to the USA's current payments system due to this type of embedded moralizing.
jerrac 7y ago
I somewhat share your concerns. Mozilla has been pretty intolerant in the past (firing someone due to personal political views.) That said, I really can't see anything gaining traction unless it's centralized. There is no decentralized means of payments. Cryptocurrencies don't work because very very very few people use them. And fees from Visa/Mastercard/etc are high enough you have to have some form of a "tip wallet" for it to make financial sense. The non-profit doesn't have to be from Mozilla. It's something any of us with the organizational skills and other resources could do. Is there a way to make something like a legally binding charter? Part of it could say "Unless your content breaks the law, you can register." ('Course, not sure how you'd apply that to countries with governments that suppress free speech...) If anyone wants to try that, I'd be happy to help with ideas and Linux Sys Admin skills.
- metildaa 7y ago
  Mozilla did not fire Brendan Eich, the board actively worked to try and retain him: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich Please cite sources when making claims in the future

metildaa 7y ago

Advocating for assaulting and murdering fellow people in your country will result in Visa, Mastercard, American Express & Discover pulling the plug on your merchant account. All the payments networks have morals clauses in their payments contracts, InfoWars blatantly violated said contract and has kicked up a fit over First Data doing what they are contractually obligated to do. Some of the frontends like First Data can be very restricitive with their own morals clauses, banning bars, sex shops, book stores, and various other "wrong think". Bitcoin and other schemes will never have a reliable connection to the USA's current payments system due to this type of embedded moralizing.

jerrac 7y ago

I somewhat share your concerns. Mozilla has been pretty intolerant in the past (firing someone due to personal political views.) That said, I really can't see anything gaining traction unless it's centralized. There is no decentralized means of payments. Cryptocurrencies don't work because very very very few people use them. And fees from Visa/Mastercard/etc are high enough you have to have some form of a "tip wallet" for it to make financial sense. The non-profit doesn't have to be from Mozilla. It's something any of us with the organizational skills and other resources could do. Is there a way to make something like a legally binding charter? Part of it could say "Unless your content breaks the law, you can register." ('Course, not sure how you'd apply that to countries with governments that suppress free speech...) If anyone wants to try that, I'd be happy to help with ideas and Linux Sys Admin skills.

metildaa 7y ago
Mozilla did not fire Brendan Eich, the board actively worked to try and retain him: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich Please cite sources when making claims in the future