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As kyrra says below, you're in the clear if you state that this is just your opinion. Naturally, prefacing something terrible as "just your opinion" doesn't mak

by boulos 7y ago

As kyrra says below, you're in the clear if you state that this is just your opinion. Naturally, prefacing something terrible as "just your opinion" doesn't make it fine. In my case, Cloud PR knows me, but I also knowingly risk my job (I clearly believe I have good enough judgment in what I post). If Urs and Ben think I should be fired, I'm okay with that, as it would represent a significant enough difference in opinion, that I wouldn't want to continue working here anyway. Finally, for what it's worth, I have been reported before for "leaking internal secrets" here on HN! It turned out to be a totally hilarious discussion with the person tasked with questioning me. Still not fired, gotta try harder :).

kyrra 7y ago
To add my own story. I have made comments about other teams services on hacker news before. I've been contacted by the SRE responsible for the service I commented on asking me to correct what I said. Luckily no reports for leaking info. :) Whenever I talk about the inner workings of Google I try to reference to external talks, books, or white papers to go along with my comments. Luckily a lot has already been set externally about how Google works.
bardworx 7y ago
That’s...that’s some petty fucking shit. I didn’t go through your comments but considering your email is in your profile, someone really had to have a hard-on to report you for leaks. I would love to understand the though process of someone going out of their way to remove someone’s livelihood from them because of a comment on HN (when applied in a normal circumstance of adding additional information or correcting a misconception — I’m clearly not saying that bonehead comments shouldn’t have consequences.)
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- praneshp 7y ago
  > I would love to understand the though process of someone going out of their way to remove someone’s livelihood from them because of a comment on HN This is not so difficult though. You just need to adjust your starting point to someone who doesn't like boulos' first. That's not so difficult IMO, it's a large org and boulos' seems to be a fairly prolific commenter here.
  - joshuamorton 7y ago
    It also could be someone will intentioned who believes boulos is sharing things he shouldn't be. He certainly shares stuff I wouldn't be comfortable sharing, but then again he's a lot better connected and in the know than I am.
    - bardworx 7y ago
      If you are their co-worker and believe he shared some info that shouldn’t be public, wouldn’t it be a simple curtesy to email them and get some clarity? That seems like a reasonable thing to do. On the other hand, to anonymously submit a complaint feels, to me, like a personal attack. Someone who simply doesn’t like them in for whatever reason. To me, that action seem petty.
- Thorrez 7y ago
  You're assuming that the person making the report said "boulos needs to be fired!". Maybe the person making the report said "Hey, I found some internal details on this external site. I'm not sure if this is allowed. Maybe someone who knows more should take a look at it, here's the link to the page."
  - bardworx 7y ago
    Their email is in their profile. I would think it is sensible to reach out to them directly or speak with your manager to get a second opinion. Submitting a complaint to an internal review because “you’re not sure it’s allowed” is really petty. In my opinion, and experience, folks who have good intentions usually pull you to the side to get a feel for a situation before filing a formal complaint.
badrequest 7y ago
thank you very much for your candor!
milesward 7y ago
Folks, seriously, boulos is fucking amazing ok?
haecceity 7y ago
They only found you because your HN username is same as your Google alias?
- robbiep 7y ago
  woah that's weird. This (Hacceity) is a social media alias of mine. For a moment I thought I wrote this. Did you come across the word in the Mars trilogy too?
  - haecceity 7y ago
    Nope. I'm a big fan of scifi. How does haecceity come into Mars?
    - robbiep 7y ago
      The character Sax is asked to describe his belief system, and he says, essentially, that it is haecceity, the this-ness of things, that is his belief system, and I thought that was awesome. If you haven't read them, you have to!

by boulos 7y ago

kyrra 7y ago

To add my own story. I have made comments about other teams services on hacker news before. I've been contacted by the SRE responsible for the service I commented on asking me to correct what I said. Luckily no reports for leaking info. :) Whenever I talk about the inner workings of Google I try to reference to external talks, books, or white papers to go along with my comments. Luckily a lot has already been set externally about how Google works.

bardworx 7y ago

That’s...that’s some petty fucking shit. I didn’t go through your comments but considering your email is in your profile, someone really had to have a hard-on to report you for leaks. I would love to understand the though process of someone going out of their way to remove someone’s livelihood from them because of a comment on HN (when applied in a normal circumstance of adding additional information or correcting a misconception — I’m clearly not saying that bonehead comments shouldn’t have consequences.)

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praneshp 7y ago
> I would love to understand the though process of someone going out of their way to remove someone’s livelihood from them because of a comment on HN This is not so difficult though. You just need to adjust your starting point to someone who doesn't like boulos' first. That's not so difficult IMO, it's a large org and boulos' seems to be a fairly prolific commenter here.
- joshuamorton 7y ago
  It also could be someone will intentioned who believes boulos is sharing things he shouldn't be. He certainly shares stuff I wouldn't be comfortable sharing, but then again he's a lot better connected and in the know than I am.
  - bardworx 7y ago
    If you are their co-worker and believe he shared some info that shouldn’t be public, wouldn’t it be a simple curtesy to email them and get some clarity? That seems like a reasonable thing to do. On the other hand, to anonymously submit a complaint feels, to me, like a personal attack. Someone who simply doesn’t like them in for whatever reason. To me, that action seem petty.
Thorrez 7y ago
You're assuming that the person making the report said "boulos needs to be fired!". Maybe the person making the report said "Hey, I found some internal details on this external site. I'm not sure if this is allowed. Maybe someone who knows more should take a look at it, here's the link to the page."
- bardworx 7y ago
  Their email is in their profile. I would think it is sensible to reach out to them directly or speak with your manager to get a second opinion. Submitting a complaint to an internal review because “you’re not sure it’s allowed” is really petty. In my opinion, and experience, folks who have good intentions usually pull you to the side to get a feel for a situation before filing a formal complaint.

badrequest 7y ago

thank you very much for your candor!

milesward 7y ago

Folks, seriously, boulos is fucking amazing ok?

haecceity 7y ago

They only found you because your HN username is same as your Google alias?

robbiep 7y ago
woah that's weird. This (Hacceity) is a social media alias of mine. For a moment I thought I wrote this. Did you come across the word in the Mars trilogy too?
- haecceity 7y ago
  Nope. I'm a big fan of scifi. How does haecceity come into Mars?
  - robbiep 7y ago
    The character Sax is asked to describe his belief system, and he says, essentially, that it is haecceity, the this-ness of things, that is his belief system, and I thought that was awesome. If you haven't read them, you have to!