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Not worth it. The cure is just as bad as the potential disease. On top of that, it probably doesn't even work. Time will tell. However the Uighyers felt about

Not worth it. The cure is just as bad as the potential disease. On top of that, it probably doesn't even work. Time will tell. However the Uighyers felt about the Chinese before, now they will harbor a white-hot rage. This entire generation of adults can never be trusted by the Chinese, they will have to imprison them forever or kill them. That's basically genocide. Yes if you kill or lock all the people up there will be no more problems. Is that really a good solution? And if the boot ever gets removed from their neck, and they get a chance, they will fight back. Misery upon misery.

PavlovsCat 7y ago
That is so obviously true, of course it has to be punished. We have mountains of literature, including by US intelligence couching it in euphemisms, saying basically that about the Middle East and the US. Just think Gitmo. I remember hearing the "argument" a lot, where people admitting that some people in Gitmo might be innocent, but by now have been treated so badly, they can't be released because they'd try to harm the US for sure.
- 0815test 7y ago
  > including by US intelligence... 'US intelligence' is a bit of an oxymoron, TBH. Weren't they going to bring democracy to Iraq? That has gone well for sure. If we really want to keep a constructive attitude towards the Middle East, it's important to keep that goal in mind and stick to it, without pursuing distractions. What the Chinese seem to be attempting is an obvious non-starter for lots of reasons.
  - thefounder 7y ago
    US thought the democracy will flourish as soon as the dictators were hanged. That's why both Iraq and AF ended up so messed up. To make it successful US should have assumed a colonial role for at least 20-30 years until people could administer themselves. I guess it's easier to just protect your interests(i.e exploit the oil fields) using military force.
- woodandsteel 7y ago
  There are what, a hundred people still in Gitmo, not a whole region held in concentration camps or under threat of it.
  - PavlovsCat 7y ago
    Scale is kind of besides the point, which is that mistreatment has already been recognized to cause resentment. If anything it should make the comment I replied to even more "obviously true", no?

PavlovsCat 7y ago

That is so obviously true, of course it has to be punished. We have mountains of literature, including by US intelligence couching it in euphemisms, saying basically that about the Middle East and the US. Just think Gitmo. I remember hearing the "argument" a lot, where people admitting that some people in Gitmo might be innocent, but by now have been treated so badly, they can't be released because they'd try to harm the US for sure.

0815test 7y ago
> including by US intelligence... 'US intelligence' is a bit of an oxymoron, TBH. Weren't they going to bring democracy to Iraq? That has gone well for sure. If we really want to keep a constructive attitude towards the Middle East, it's important to keep that goal in mind and stick to it, without pursuing distractions. What the Chinese seem to be attempting is an obvious non-starter for lots of reasons.
- thefounder 7y ago
  US thought the democracy will flourish as soon as the dictators were hanged. That's why both Iraq and AF ended up so messed up. To make it successful US should have assumed a colonial role for at least 20-30 years until people could administer themselves. I guess it's easier to just protect your interests(i.e exploit the oil fields) using military force.
woodandsteel 7y ago
There are what, a hundred people still in Gitmo, not a whole region held in concentration camps or under threat of it.
- PavlovsCat 7y ago
  Scale is kind of besides the point, which is that mistreatment has already been recognized to cause resentment. If anything it should make the comment I replied to even more "obviously true", no?