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Note that it's not yet supported by Edge: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/status/detailssummary/ https://developer.microsoft.com/e

Note that it's not yet supported by Edge: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/status/detailssummary/ https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platfor...

Ajedi32 7y ago
Edge is turning into Chromium soon, so that shouldn't be a problem for much longer.
- reaperducer 7y ago
  Considering there are millions of people still using IE11, I'd say it will continue being a problem for a long time. 18% of my users are on IE11. Some industries (healthcare, for example) don't change if they don't perceive something to be broken.
  - lol768 7y ago
    Doesn't Edge auto-update though? How easy would it be, as someone in enterprise IT, to keep users on an old version of Edge?
    - fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
      The reason is active-x, somebody wrote a way to scan with active-x and now virtually every healthcare web app works that way.
      - mschuster91 7y ago
        This was before webcam support was mainstream in browsers. Capturing stills from ultrasound is in many legacy systems still done with a TV capture card and the really old legacy cards don't even use any standard API but carry their own driver so you can't use them as a webcam but need the vendor app. source: did support for a doctor some years ago
    - notriddle 7y ago
      Edge isn't IE11. They are both installed, side-by-side, on Windows 10, and IE11 is the only one that ships on Windows 7.
  - stephenboyd 7y ago
    In healthcare, the most common EMR systems (Epic, Cerner, Allscripts, etc) use IE11 in iframes as the platform environment for 3rd party applications embedded in their UIs. So convincing a few large vendors to upgrade would make a huge difference, but the hospitals themselves don't have the option of upgrading some of those browser environments. (My company makes apps that run in the EMR platforms)
  - CognitiveLens 7y ago
    To be fair, if we're staying in the parameters of the thought experiment, we're targeting the HN user base, which I suspect isn't using IE11 at nearly that rate...
mintplant 7y ago
There's a handy polyfill for that. https://github.com/rstacruz/details-polyfill https://github.com/rstacruz/details-polyfill
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  Yeah I was going to say, I'm sure the polyfill shouldn't be entirely horrible...

Note that it's not yet supported by Edge: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/status/detailssummary/ https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platfor...

Ajedi32 7y ago

Edge is turning into Chromium soon, so that shouldn't be a problem for much longer.

reaperducer 7y ago
Considering there are millions of people still using IE11, I'd say it will continue being a problem for a long time. 18% of my users are on IE11. Some industries (healthcare, for example) don't change if they don't perceive something to be broken.
- lol768 7y ago
  Doesn't Edge auto-update though? How easy would it be, as someone in enterprise IT, to keep users on an old version of Edge?
  - fuzz4lyfe 7y ago
    The reason is active-x, somebody wrote a way to scan with active-x and now virtually every healthcare web app works that way.
    - mschuster91 7y ago
      This was before webcam support was mainstream in browsers. Capturing stills from ultrasound is in many legacy systems still done with a TV capture card and the really old legacy cards don't even use any standard API but carry their own driver so you can't use them as a webcam but need the vendor app. source: did support for a doctor some years ago
  - notriddle 7y ago
    Edge isn't IE11. They are both installed, side-by-side, on Windows 10, and IE11 is the only one that ships on Windows 7.
- stephenboyd 7y ago
  In healthcare, the most common EMR systems (Epic, Cerner, Allscripts, etc) use IE11 in iframes as the platform environment for 3rd party applications embedded in their UIs. So convincing a few large vendors to upgrade would make a huge difference, but the hospitals themselves don't have the option of upgrading some of those browser environments. (My company makes apps that run in the EMR platforms)
- CognitiveLens 7y ago
  To be fair, if we're staying in the parameters of the thought experiment, we're targeting the HN user base, which I suspect isn't using IE11 at nearly that rate...

mintplant 7y ago

There's a handy polyfill for that. https://github.com/rstacruz/details-polyfill https://github.com/rstacruz/details-polyfill

giancarlostoro 7y ago
Yeah I was going to say, I'm sure the polyfill shouldn't be entirely horrible...